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idiot said:
Since Pelton is the analytics guy Locke trusts most, it seems, it will be interesting to hear the discussion between those two (if there's) ever a podcast, on why Kaminsky is Pelton's model's 5th ranked prospect.

(And for that matter, I'd like to hear them discuss what we should think about an analytics model -- Pelton's -- that ranks Alan Williams and Marc Garcia as better prospects than Jahlil Okafor).
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Locke has already made his mind based on Kaminsky's age and now has started doubling down with a ton of things he doesn't like about him without even having watched him much. For example, the craziest one I heard from him is that Kaminsky is a ball stopper and doesn't share the ball and needs to hold the ball in his hands for a while before he decides what to do. I was like WTF when I heard it. Kaminsky is one of the best big passers in college basketball and if there's something I've noticed it's the complete opposite - that he makes good quick decisions and his feel for the game is extremely good for a big.

I would take what Locke says about prospects with a grain of salt, especially when he admits he hasn't seen much of them and has started pushing talking points about them even before he's seen a single minute of them(he started crapping on Kaminsky based on his age, before he even started doing 'scouting' for the videos he's doing).

Now don't get me wrong, for me his age is a concern(and not the age specifically, but rather the chance that he's towards the upper part of his development curve), but piling on with BS only to support your pre-conceived notions is never a good thing.
 
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Here's an article by Givony about the best shooters in the draft:
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/ranking-the-2015-nba-draft-s-top-shooters-012046574.html
Overall shooting rankings

1. Mario Hezonja
2. D'Angelo Russell
3. Frank Kaminsky
4. Corey Hawkins
5. Tyler Harvey
6. Pat Connaughton
7. Kristaps Porzingis
8. Devin Booker
9. Daniel Diez
10. Joseph Young
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Has anybody watched Corey Hawkins from UC Davis? He's shot 49% from 3 on 7.4 attempts per 40mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO8nQ72elOQ
 
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Looking through the drafts in the last 10 years or so there are so many busts in the lottery... It's crazy how all these players seem good, but you just never know.
 
stitches said:
Here's an article by Givony about the best shooters in the draft:
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/ranking-the-2015-nba-draft-s-top-shooters-012046574.html

Has anybody watched Corey Hawkins from UC Davis? He's shot 49% from 3 on 7.4 attempts per game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO8nQ72elOQ
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Seen him work a few times, certainly love to bring him in for summer ball, but even using the #54 on him might be a bit of a stretch. One of the better pure scorers who'd be available late. Defense is respectable for his size. But 6'2 size could be a problem.
 
stitches said:
Locke has already made his mind based on Kaminsky's age and now has started doubling down with a ton of things he doesn't like about him without even having watched him much. For example, the craziest one I heard from him is that Kaminsky is a ball stopper and doesn't share the ball and needs to hold the ball in his hands for a while before he decides what to do. I was like WTF when I heard it. Kaminsky is one of the best big passers in college basketball and if there's something I've noticed it's the complete opposite - that he makes good quick decisions and his feel for the game is extremely good for a big.

I would take what Locke says about prospects with a grain of salt, especially when he admits he hasn't seen much of them and has started pushing talking points about them even before he's seen a single minute of them(he started crapping on Kaminsky based on his age, before he even started doing 'scouting' for the videos he's doing).

Now don't get me wrong, for me his age is a concern(and not the age specifically, but rather the chance that he's towards the upper part of his development curve), but piling on with BS only to support your per-conceived notions is never a good thing.
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Completely agree. Just think it will be fun to hear the conversation when Locke starts trying to explain to Pelton why the numbers teach that 4-year seniors who didn't dominate as freshmen won't do well as pros when it's probably Pelton's models (the same ones that rank Kaminsky high) that Locke is basing his "the-numbers-teach" idea off of.
 
stitches said:
Locke has already made his mind based on Kaminsky's age and now has started doubling down with a ton of things he doesn't like about him without even having watched him much. For example, the craziest one I heard from him is that Kaminsky is a ball stopper and doesn't share the ball and needs to hold the ball in his hands for a while before he decides what to do. I was like WTF when I heard it. Kaminsky is one of the best big passers in college basketball and if there's something I've noticed it's the complete opposite - that he makes good quick decisions and his feel for the game is extremely good for a big.

I would take what Locke says about prospects with a grain of salt, especially when he admits he hasn't seen much of them and has started pushing talking points about them even before he's seen a single minute of them(he started crapping on Kaminsky based on his age, before he even started doing 'scouting' for the videos he's doing).

Now don't get me wrong, for me his age is a concern(and not the age specifically, but rather the chance that he's towards the upper part of his development curve), but piling on with BS only to support your pre-conceived notions is never a good thing.
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Right there with you... His tweet was possibly the dumbest thing ever. Frank led the team in pts, ast, and rebounds... But yeah he holds the ball too long. If anything he was too much of a ball mover. I remember watching him thinking he should go get his shot.
 
And then Locke sends a tweet about remembering that ezeli and green were the 30th and 35th picks... Can someone tell me what those two have in common?

That's right both seniors who weren't good their first two years. Stop the frank hate.
 
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And then Locke sends a tweet about remembering that ezeli and green were the 30th and 35th picks... Can someone tell me what those two have in common?

That's right both seniors who weren't good their first two years. Stop the frank hate.
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LOL ... Locke... why in the world are we stuck with him????
 
Cy said:
https://www.draftexpress.com/article/Analytics-Models-and-the-NBA-Draft-5021

Kevon Looney is officially the nerdiest pick in the draft.
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I'm not sure about that... look at this quote from Booker:

Devin Booker said:
"A lot of people say Klay Thompson. I get that comparison a lot," Booker said. "I like that. I studied most two-guards on the Synergy app, not only because I want to find ways of how they score, but I'm also going to have to defend those players. So I'm trying to figure out the tendencies already."
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https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-miami-heat-devin-booker-s052615-story.html
 
Well, if my memory serves Locke wasn't too high on Hayward. But ever since the Jazz drafted him he's been talking him up constantly.
 
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