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stormkoopacv03 said:
Does anyone have any idea why Daniel Diez and Arturas Gudaitis are not listed in staying in or leaving the upcoming draft? DX doesn't have them listed anywhere but are still in their mock draft.
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The lists of people leaving are the early entrants, once the turn 22 they are auto eligible. My guess is those guys are 22.
 
Catchall said:
Nets want to move up in the draft and reportedly are willing to trade Plumlee to do it. Not sure I'd bite, but it's a legit discussion. Nets must be ready to hit the reset button.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238215/Nets-Trying-To-Trade-Up-By-Offering-Mason-Plumlee
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I hate Plumlee as a 3rd big for us. Offers no unique skills to Favors/Gobert and is a horrendous FT shooter.

And at 25, he is a pretty old 3rd year player who doesn't look like he is going to expand his skill set.
 
Walt Perrin is the master of saying something without saying anything. Every interview: He plays hard, he looked good...blah, blah, blah. Just once, I would like to hear him say, man, that dude has no chance in this league.
 
DX has Mudiay falling to #7 on their latest mock..

I wouldn't mind trading #12, Trey Burke, GSW 2017 first round pick, OKC 2018 first round pick for #7 to get Mudiay or Hezonja.

Go big or go home, if DL thinks either one is a top-5 player and one of them falls to #7 I think you take the chance.
 
White Chocolate said:
DX has Mudiay falling to #7 on their latest mock..

I wouldn't mind trading #12, Trey Burke, GSW 2017 first round pick, OKC 2018 first round pick for #7 to get Mudiay or Hezonja.

Go big or go home, if DL thinks either one is a top-5 player and one of them falls to #7 I think you take the chance.
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I'd probably do that, the other team probably wouldn't.
 
White Chocolate said:
DX has Mudiay falling to #7 on their latest mock..

I wouldn't mind trading #12, Trey Burke, GSW 2017 first round pick, OKC 2018 first round pick for #7 to get Mudiay or Hezonja.

Go big or go home, if DL thinks either one is a top-5 player and one of them falls to #7 I think you take the chance.
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I agree with this, but I'm not sure if Denver as a division rival is going to want to help us much. They already did us a solid helping us get Gobert, and they're living with that decision.
 
Catchall said:
I agree with this, but I'm not sure if Denver as a division rival is going to want to help us much. They already did us a solid helping us get Gobert, and they're living with that decision.
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I think Denver has to play their own hand. To rebuild you need assets. If they can get some picks to move back before they tank next year they should do it. We are to the point in our rebuild that we need to become more selective, they need to cast a wide net. If anything the Jazz getting Gobert from them and then drafting Hood at 23 is something they should be trying to emulate, not shy away from.
 
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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
The depth of the 2nd round has deteriorated so much, I'm actually starting to think Chris Walker and Darrun Hillard might get drafted.
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I'd be for moving both picks to move up even 1 or 2 spots. At 42 we previously would have got De Paula. Luwawu, Alexander, or Jaiteh.
Now were looking at Harrison, Tokoto, Dakari Johnson. Much lower ceilings.
 
stormkoopacv03 said:
Does anyone have any idea why Daniel Diez and Arturas Gudaitis are not listed in staying in or leaving the upcoming draft? DX doesn't have them listed anywhere but are still in their mock draft.
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those players are automatically eligible for the draft because their born in 1993.. Next years auto-eligible international draftees will be born in '94, and so on and so forth...
 
Here's an aggressive trade scenario:

1) Jazz trade 12, Trevor Booker (can be waived), and a 2nd-rd pick for 9. We take back some salary.

2) Jazz trade 9 + Player X or future first for #7 or #6.

So 12 + Booker + 2nd + future first *might* get to #7 or #6, which could be Hezonja.


Charlotte gets Booker or Hunter, whom they like, plus a bit extra.

Denver or Sacto get #9 + future first + maybe another asset to drop back a 2 - 3 spots.

Jazz get the cheese.
 
I don't think there's any way to pull off that trade. Nobody's going to be eager to move down until they get a better idea of what the board looks like. To pull off one trade will be hard, two impossible. Taking back salary is a bad move also. I'd rather have the Jazz save their money and see how free agency goes. If they want to buy assets at the beginning of free agency, that would be a better plan IMO.
 
Catchall said:
Here's an aggressive trade scenario:

1) Jazz trade 12, Trevor Booker (can be waived), and a 2nd-rd pick for 9. We take back some salary.

2) Jazz trade 9 + Player X or future first for #7 or #6.

So 12 + Booker + 2nd + future first *might* get to #7 or #6, which could be Hezonja.


Charlotte gets Booker or Hunter, whom they like, plus a bit extra.

Denver or Sacto get #9 + future first + maybe another asset to drop back a 2 - 3 spots.

Jazz get the cheese.
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These trades won't happen until draft night so not sure you can climb the latter like that.

Also, Hornets will get better offers than that... Boston has been said to want to move there. I'd be willing to do 12 plus the OKC pick or our pick next year top 5 protected to get to 9 if Johnson, Hezonja, or Porz are there (WCS may fall and I don't think I'd move up for him). I think one of Porz, Hezonja, or WCS slips a bit on draft night just the way the teams are lined up. I think Detroit will take Johnson if Mario and Winslow are off the board.

Rumor has it that 8 is available... SVG mentioned he needs a backup center and a SF... wonder what we could cobble together.
 
Hack said:
It's funny how a lot of people here are excited by every prospect in the top 15. I've heard a lot of people name off like 5 or 6 dudes they'd be happy with.

That's not how it's going to work out. Only a handful of players in this entire draft will be any good. If you look at any draft 6+ years old it's hard to find that many good players in any draft. Younger drafts appear to have more good players, but only because history hasn't been written yet.

This is something what this draft will look like in 6+ years

1st pick - Allstar, maybe all NBA
2nd pick - Bust
3rd pick - Allstar
4th pick - decent player
5th pick - Borderline Allstar
6th pick - Bust
7th pick - Bust
8th pick - Bust
9th pick - borderline Allstar
10th pick - Bust
11th pick - Bust
12th pick - decent player
13th pick - Bust
14th pick - Good player
15th pick - Bust

You get the picture... With maybe 3 or 4 decent players left and an Allstar maybe.

So every time I hear, I'll be happy with Oubre, Looney, Turner, Kaminsky, Booker, Portis, or Johnson, I think eh, probably one or 2 good players out of all those. If that.


All I'm saying is, you can't be excited about getting just anyone in our range.
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No one is saying that they think that all those guys will be good, just that it's hard to decipher who in particular is actually going to pan out.
 
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