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The idea that Utah should only draft guys who want to come to Utah is laughable. Hell, even Jimmer wanted NY over Utah. Utah is not a preferred destination among NBA players, and that's just the way it is.

Jimmer is from Glen Falls NY. And Jimmer had all good to say about the Jazz and did work out for us. Next.
 
I've been to a number of NBA cities. There are maybe 5 or 6 that are attractive. The rest are meh and it's all about winning.

Attractive for young buck$: LA, Miami, NY

Maybe attractive: Chicago, San Francisco, Dallas, ??
 
FWIW, Salt Lake is considered like a country club setting compared to most cities.

It's just that black dudes probably need to bring their own entourage.
 
He never said that.
Neither did Frank. It's strictly business. He and his agent, mostly his agent I'd guess, have decided there are better fits. It doesn't mean he doesn't like Utah, or the Jazz, or the fans. Why do some people take it so personally? We are not exactly a preferred destination.
 
Neither did Frank. It's strictly business. He and his agent, mostly his agent I'd guess, have decided there are better fits. It doesn't mean he doesn't like Utah, or the Jazz, or the fans. Why do some people take it so personally? We are not exactly a preferred destination.

Utah is probably a great situation for Kaminsky. We want a stretch big. He's a stretch big. He can get 25 minutes as a rookie.
 
I've been to a number of NBA cities. There are maybe 5 or 6 that are attractive. The rest are meh and it's all about winning.

Attractive for young buck$: LA, Miami, NY

Maybe attractive: Chicago, San Francisco, Dallas, ??

Also, they have polled NBA players before about teams they would most/least like to play for. I feel bad for bursting the bubble of fans who have never lived outside of SLC, but Utah is near the bottom for 98% of NBA players, all things being equal. Obviously there are factors that change things for some players, such as money, winning situation, etc., but Utah can't afford to only draft players who dream of playing in Utah.
 
Utah is probably a great situation for Kaminsky. We want a stretch big. He's a stretch big. He can get 25 minutes as a rookie.

He won't be starting anytime soon, so I doubt he sees it as a great situation. If he's BPA at 12, Utah will take him anyway, and chances are he'll have a change of heart once he realizes it's a better situation than he thought.
 
Also, they have polled NBA players before about teams they would most/least like to play for. I feel bad for bursting the bubble of fans who have never lived outside of SLC, but Utah is near the bottom for 98% of NBA players, all things being equal. Obviously there are factors that change things for some players, such as money, winning situation, etc., but Utah can't afford to only draft players who dream of playing in Utah.

Funny because every other player around us (Oubre, Turner, Looney, Lyles, Dekker, Portis, Looney) worked out for us. Booker maybe refused as well. But the % says Kaminsky is the exception to not wanting to come here. If he was a tier above those guys I wouldn't care and take my chances it would work out. But he is on the same tier, just not worth the trouble of having a possible malcontent like Kanter. We'll see if DL agrees.
 
Keep in mind, Boston has a real shot at trading up to 11 for Turner (if that's who they're even targeting). Indiana could take a big or Grant at 16 and take a future first from Boston's stash.

The Jazz may be forced to try to trade up to 9 if they want Turner or maybe even Oubre.
 
Just in case agents were not paying attention last year, the best players play. In one season we say a rookie PG who never played college ball take over the starting position. We also saw a player work hard and breakout and it forced the Jazz to make a decision. The former starter was moved due to bad attitude.

Quin will play the best player. If a player believes they are the better player then they just need to prove it and they'll start. Not many other teams seem to be so willing to do that.

This is a great landing spot for talent that is willing to prove they are the better player.

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How would yall feel if Houston traded the 18 and Terrence Jones for 12 (presumably for Cam Payne) and a future 2nd rd pick. Then the Jazz picked up a falling Oubre at 18.
 
Keep in mind, Boston has a real shot at trading up to 11 for Turner (if that's who they're even targeting). Indiana could take a big or Grant at 16 and take a future first from Boston's stash.

The Jazz may be forced to try to trade up to 9 if they want Turner or maybe even Oubre.

Ok this subject really interests me. Boston wants to move up - leapfrogging Utah. Utah needs to leapfrog their leapfrog to remain in front of them. Boston has the 16th pick to offer. Utah has the 12th pick to offer. = advantage Utah. BUT Boston has other picks too. But so does Utah. What do you think Boston would offer to move up to 11? What would the Jazz need to offer to move up to 11?
 
Boston wants to move up 5 spots to get to 11.
Jazz would only move up 1 spot to get to 11.
or
Jazz would need to move up 3 spots to get 9.


I'm just wondering what each move would cost?
 
If the Jazz really care about getting their first choice of that 3rd tier--Turner, Johnson, Oubre--they should offer 12 + something to move up to 9. Those three guys could go 9, 10, 11 respectively, leaving us to pick from the Wisconsin guys, Looney and Portis, though Booker is also possible.

Thing is, 12 + a player + a future first could get the Jazz to 7 or 8.
 
If Russell really makes stink about playing in Philly, it could shake up this draft at the top. Philly could take Mudiay. The Knicks aren't that high on Russell, though they could take him for another team. Russell could fall to 5 or even 6.
 
How would yall feel if Houston traded the 18 and Terrence Jones for 12 (presumably for Cam Payne) and a future 2nd rd pick. Then the Jazz picked up a falling Oubre at 18.

That'd be a great deal for the jazz, even in Oubre isn't there (and he won't be). Do that deal and take Jerian Grant (then ship out Burke).
 
How would yall feel if Houston traded the 18 and Terrence Jones for 12 (presumably for Cam Payne) and a future 2nd rd pick. Then the Jazz picked up a falling Oubre at 18.

Oubre has too much potential to fall that far. GMs love potential, lots of teams picking at the end of the lottery are willing to take a chance. But I guess you never know. Besides isnt his stock climbing after doing really well in all the workouts?
 
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