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Radical islamists killing atheists now..

Anyone who does not accept/believe in/worship Allah is not worthy of breath to them. Don't even try to question Mohammed either. Je Suis Charlie ring a bell?

In the words of Richard Dawkins: No, all religions are NOT equally violent. Some have never been violent, some gave it up centuries ago. One religion conspicuously didn’t.
 
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Islamists have always killed atheists. Are you kidding me? lol. We're like their number one target. Well, beside other Muslims who believe slightly different things.
 
very sad...

Anyone else around here old enough to remember the Concert for Bangladesh? Probably not... but I remember Trick-or-Treating for Unicef that year to raise money to support the relief efforts in Bangladesh
 
Red Jazz Fan said:
Anyone who does not accept/believe in/worship Allah is not worthy of breath to them. Don't even try to question Mohammed either. Je Suis Charlie ring a bell?

In the words of Richard Dawkins: No, all religions are NOT equally violent. Some have never been violent, some gave it up centuries ago. One religion conspicuously didn’t.
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lol, quoting Islamic scholar extraordinaire Richard Dawkins :rolleyes:
 
dalamon said:
lol, quoting Islamic scholar extraordinaire Richard Dawkins :rolleyes:
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But is Dawkins wrong on this one? Is there any other religion followers in 21 century killing non believers as frequently and mercilessly as Islam followers?
 
dalamon said:
lol, quoting Islamic scholar extraordinaire Richard Dawkins :rolleyes:
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Sorry Dal but I have to disagree with you on this one.

There are sects of Islam that are exceedingly lethal and violent. They do immeasurable damage to Islam's name. These groups do more killing in the name of their religion than all other religions combined (speaking current events not through out history).

Sad to see them destroying something that should be building people up.
 
Stoked said:
Sorry Dal but I have to disagree with you on this one.

There are sects of Islam that are exceedingly lethal and violent. They do immeasurable damage to Islam's name. These groups do more killing in the name of their religion than all other religions combined (speaking current events not through out history).

Sad to see them destroying something that should be building people up.
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the relgious texts of the Islamic faith have not changed for more than a thousand years. Why is it only　now that the faith seems to be more extreme in its handling of citizens of other faiths, than other faiths?

Answer: Islam is practiced in some of the most economically, socially, and poltiically desolate regions of the world. If it wasnt religion that was used as the fuel to the power-hungry, it would be nationalism (or another proven method of rallying support).


These extremists are Muslim. I would never say they arent. However, it is their environment that is causing their actions-- not their faith. Too many people fail to understand the nuance of this. If everyone converted to Christianity tomorrow night, but the economic conditions didnt change, things would not change.



Buddhism is a pacifistic faith, no? Then why are there macabre Buddhist monks in Myanmar killing Muslims by the thousands?

Answer: their societal backdrop.
 
MVP said:
But is Dawkins wrong on this one? Is there any other religion followers in 21 century killing non believers as frequently and mercilessly as Islam followers?
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now compare this to the amount of MUSLIMS that they are killing.
 
dalamon said:
the relgious texts of the Islamic faith have not changed for more than a thousand years. Why is it only　now that the faith seems to be more extreme in its handling of citizens of other faiths, than other faiths?

Answer: Islam is practiced in some of the most economically, socially, and poltiically desolate regions of the world. If it wasnt religion that was used as the fuel to the power-hungry, it would be nationalism (or another proven method of rallying support).


These extremists are Muslim. I would never say they arent. However, it is their environment that is causing their actions-- not their faith. Too many people fail to understand the nuance of this. If everyone converted to Christianity tomorrow night, but the economic conditions didnt change, things would not change.



Buddhism is a pacifistic faith, no? Then why are there macabre Buddhist monks in Myanmar killing Muslims by the thousands?

Answer: their societal backdrop.
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Are there adherents of other faiths killing in the name of their religion?? of course there are. Budhism, Christianity...I am sure examples of each can be found. But Islam, unfortunately, exceeds them all.

Are some of these regions "the most economically, socially, and poltiically desolate regions of the world"? Sure. But part of that is their own doing. When they throw acid on girls going to school, car bomb their own cities and markets, light their own oil fields on fire...

Yes there is way to much foreign military involvement in these areas and those countries, even my own good'ole America, shares part of the blame. But so do these groups that want there domains to remain in the stone age. And do whatever is necessary to ensure that.

I look forward to the day when the Muslim world says enough and we see the true leaders of the Muslim face lead a revolt of 10s of millions and throws this disease down and usher in the Muslim world to the modern era. Humanity needs it.

I think we are starting to see the fight for that coming up. Govs and people are starting to take notice and get involved. Iran, Saudi, Turkey, Jordan...
 
dalamon said:
the relgious texts of the Islamic faith have not changed for more than a thousand years. Why is it only　now that the faith seems to be more extreme in its handling of citizens of other faiths, than other faiths?

Answer: Islam is practiced in some of the most economically, socially, and poltiically desolate regions of the world. If it wasnt religion that was used as the fuel to the power-hungry, it would be nationalism (or another proven method of rallying support).


These extremists are Muslim. I would never say they arent. However, it is their environment that is causing their actions-- not their faith. Too many people fail to understand the nuance of this. If everyone converted to Christianity tomorrow night, but the economic conditions didnt change, things would not change.



Buddhism is a pacifistic faith, no? Then why are there macabre Buddhist monks in Myanmar killing Muslims by the thousands?

Answer: their societal backdrop.
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There are large Christian, Hindu and Buddhist populations who live in poverty. How come none of those populations are striking out violently in the way the Muslim populations are? How come well funded Islamists are financing terrorism? I do not doubt that poverty plays a role, but this is being fueled by more than poverty.
 
I don't understand the stance that <blank> doesn't have to be violent. So what? It is what it is. At best, one must accept that it is a failed ideology and move on. Surely the creator of the universe could have done better!
 
dalamon said:
Islam is practiced in some of the most economically, socially, and poltiically desolate regions of the world.
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Is this coincidence?
 
Stoked said:
Are some of these regions "the most economically, socially, and poltiically desolate regions of the world"? Sure. But part of that is their own doing. When they throw acid on girls going to school, car bomb their own cities and markets, light their own oil fields on fire...
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This
 
You're missing my point. Take an extra second to read what I'm saying:

Stoked said:
Are there adherents of other faiths killing in the name of their religion?? of course there are. Budhism, Christianity
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Umm yes. Historically,　Christianity far outnumbers Islam. No contest. Not even close. For 13 ｏｆ their 14 shared centuries, killings in the name of Christianity > Islam. So what changed? These are the inconvenient truths we need to come to terms with. These are the complex questions we need to ask.


...I am sure examples of each can be found. But Islam, unfortunately, exceeds them all.
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Which, again, has only been the case in the past 100 years at best. Again, I ask: what changed?

Are some of these regions "the most economically, socially, and politically desolate regions of the world"? Sure. But part of that is their own doing.
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And part of it is America's doing, or the doing of other colonial powers. Another inconvenient truth that many ignore. You paying attention to Yemen right now?

When they throw acid on girls going to school, car bomb their own cities and markets, light their own oil fields on fire...
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And despite these atrocities, America continues to provide unquestioned support and assistance and friendly relations with the main contributors of these activities: Saudi. Another inconvenient truth.

Yes there is way to much foreign military involvement in these areas and those countries, even my own good'ole America, shares part of the blame. But so do these groups that want there domains to remain in the stone age. And do whatever is necessary to ensure that.
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How on earth will these despots ever be usurped when nearly every developed nation continues to provide so much support for the sake of their continued existence? Is there any timeline for Saudi Arabia becomign democratic at any point? Has the US ever given a **** to reform Saudi? Questions that make you go HMMMMMmmmmm.

I look forward to the day when the Muslim world says enough and we see the true leaders of the Muslim face lead a revolt of 10s of millions and throws this disease down and usher in the Muslim world to the modern era. Humanity needs it.
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The Muslim leaders have it way too good right now-- and they have all of the support of basically the rest of the world. Their only hope is the collapse of oil.

I think we are starting to see the fight for that coming up. Govs and people are starting to take notice and get involved. Iran, Saudi, Turkey, Jordan...
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I think its coming too. But things could really be expedited.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
There are large Christian, Hindu and Buddhist populations who live in poverty. How come none of those populations are striking out violently in the way the Muslim populations are?
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please provide a list of these violence-free regions of economic and social desolation. I'll patiently wait.

How come well funded Islamists are financing terrorism? I do not doubt that poverty plays a role, but this is being fueled by more than poverty.
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Because that has been their giving rallying call. Every nation has a different one. A different enemy. For Myanmar, its the Muslims-- and you clearly dont understand how violent it is.

They have conjured their enemies as being Israel and America at first-- and now its every non-Muslim, or every non-Sunni. Terrorism is easy due to their access to firearms. Their access to firearms? Better talk to America and Russia about that one :rolleyes:
 
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