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SUCCES! the left winning at banning guns!!!!!!!!!

this whole gun debate is stupid and leads to nowhere. it is kinda sad cus both sides want a safer world.
but guns arent the problem. people are.


to me this whole guns deabte is stupid.
its like a few kids drowned in a swimming pool, so people want to ban swimming pools.
keep other people from having a pool cus some rando kids died in a pool.
 
Stoked said:
What possible ways do you favor reducing guns?

I say:

Voluntary buy back programs
Destroying guns used in crimes
Linking mental health records to back ground checks
Securing the border and what goes across both ways. No more Fast and Furious (disgusting!)
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agree with ALL of those, though I'm not real clear on the border issues and how much that impacts crime and gun violence.

The waiting period should be 10 business days
There should be a NATIONAL registry of guns
High taxes/fees on ammunition purchases
Measures to restrict straw purchases and make them more difficult (see my earlier post... LINK)

Truthfully, I'm really very unfamiliar with the measures that may already be in place, so it's difficult for me to offer new suggestions
 
Comparing swimming pools to guns lol
 
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DutchJazzer said:
one of the top cause of deaths among children in usa is drowning.
if its about protecting the children right :P?


why is it wrong? they are both leading causes of death?
and banning both of them "will save lives"
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They have pools in Japan. They basically have no guns in Japan. Pool death rates about the same - gun death rates about 100X more in USA. Is problem in Japan or in USA?
 
moevillini said:
agree with ALL of those, though I'm not real clear on the border issues and how much that impacts crime and gun violence.

The waiting period should be 10 business days
There should be a NATIONAL registry of guns
High taxes/fees on ammunition purchases
Measures to restrict straw purchases and make them more difficult (see my earlier post... LINK)

Truthfully, I'm really very unfamiliar with the measures that may already be in place, so it's difficult for me to offer new suggestions
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Border thing is just a small part of so many things. I don't want us shipping guns to criminals and causing other deaths. While not American deaths how Mexicans were killed with those weapons? No thanks.

Waiting period, what can be done in 10 days can be done in 3-5. Mental health records must be included.
National registry? No thank you. No way, no how.
Measures to restrict straw man purchases? Depending on the measure's exact wording I could be on board.
I could support a modest increase on ammo taxes. Say an additional 5-7%? Thoughts? Should it be earmarked for something? Like gun awareness programs?

I'd also like to see the loophole closed on gun show sales. And depending on how exactly it was written I might be persuaded to support penalties and/or criminal charges to gun shops that are repeatedly bad in their record keeping and who they sell to and have they sell said weapons. Recently saw an article about 2 gun shops (in Chicago I think) where something like 40% of guns in homicides in that city were bought from these 2 shops.
 
MVP said:
They have pools in Japan. They basically have no guns in Japan. Pool death rates about the same - gun death rates about 100X more in USA. Is problem in Japan or in USA?
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ok.

as ussual you dont know what i mean.

i mean why restrict ban guns?

cus they cause dead to children cus after every school shooting the left is in full on rage.

well more children die of drowning so if it is about PREVENTING children from dying.
shouldnt pools alsp be banned

also 1 of leading causes is traffic related accidents, should cars be banned.

you might say pools are for recreation, cars for transportation and since your ignorant i assume you think guns are for killing.
well if i had to give up my pool and car to keep my gun i would be happy cus a gun secures my freedom to live and the pursuit of liberty!
a gun to me is more important than a pool and a car.

and yes leading causes of deaths are drownings and traffic accidents.



but again have fun with promoting tyranny!

i'm out cus you are clearly uneducated when it comes to guns
 
DutchJazzer said:
ok.

as ussual you dont know what i mean.

i mean why restrict ban guns?

cus they cause dead to children cus after every school shooting the left is in full on rage.
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Are you really that stupid or you just ignorant? Why you ignore the fact that restricting guns in numerous other countries works!
Here another example why guns should be controlled. But you would most likely say that he had right to defend himself.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...niel-ellis-dies-after-being-shot-head-n458501
 
MVP said:
Are you really that stupid or you just ignorant? Why you ignore the fact that restricting guns in numerous other countries works!
Here another example why guns should be controlled. But you would most likely say that he had right to defend himself.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...niel-ellis-dies-after-being-shot-head-n458501
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yes i am that stupid and ignorant.


i don't blame murder on the tool that the murder is committed with. if that's ignorant and stupid then yes i am ignorant and stupid.
wether that tool is a gun a car or a knife, i dont blame that tool or the people who manufactured that tool.
i blame the person commiting the act.

and being ignorant and stupid is a matter of perspective, from my perspective you are EXTREMELY ignorant and naive when it comes to gun.

fact that you suggested gas pistol in earlier post prove my point cus if someone threatens my live with a gas pistol he can shoot 100 times and it wont stop me, unless he miraculously hits in my in both eyes blinding me, even then i would charge foward.
o what do you think gas pistol stops people, just plane ignorance. how do i know? i have been shot a few times by a gas pistol i have seen others get shot with it.
but be ignorant on this subject
 
DutchJazzer said:
one of the top cause of deaths among children in usa is drowning.
if its about protecting the children right :P?


why is it wrong? they are both leading causes of death?
and banning both of them "will save lives"
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Do you consider a swimming pool a weapon? Are you able take swimming pools around with you and go on killing sprees? Are swimming pools created with the intent to kill?
Come on dutch, i know you are dumb but you are not really so dumb to think that swimming pools and guns have allot in common are you?
 
fishonjazz said:
Do you consider a swimming pool a weapon? Are you able take swimming pools around with you and go on killing sprees? Are swimming pools created with the intent to kill?
Come on dutch, i know you are dumb but you are not really so dumb to think that swimming pools and guns have allot in common are you?
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doesnt matter what i deem a weapon. because i deem lots more stuff a weapon than the average person.
these are some of the things i consider weapons.
Hot water
broom stick
a bunch of keys on a keychain
a pillowcase
a stone
a car
a chair.



why do people wanna ban guns? cus its a cause of death? or because its a weapon?
I think it is stupid to give up a gun because some people used guns to murder people
Just like it stupid to ban peoples cus its a leading cause of death for people
just like it is stupid to ban kitchen knife because it could kill people
just like it is stupid to ban a pillowcase and broomstick cus someone can use it as weapon.


a pool is a recreational thing.
a car is a transportation thing.
a gun is an insurance policy against evil people whether it be a lone criminal or a tyrannical government.

to me out of those 3 a gun is the most important thing.

why would you wanna ban an insurance policy of the people. because a few people got killed by guns doesnt mean it should be banned just like a pool itr should not be banned.

so whats the reason for banning it?
because its a weapon? that's not fair!
because its a leading cause of dead? then isnt it reasonable to ban other reasons of death?
 
DutchJazzer said:
doesnt matter what i deem a weapon. because i deem lots more stuff a weapon than the average person.
these are some of the things i consider weapons.
Hot water
broom stick
a bunch of keys on a keychain
a pillowcase
a stone
a car
a chair.



why do people wanna ban guns? cus its a cause of death? or because its a weapon?
I think it is stupid to give up a gun because some people used guns to murder people
Just like it stupid to ban peoples cus its a leading cause of death for people
just like it is stupid to ban kitchen knife because it could kill people
just like it is stupid to ban a pillowcase and broomstick cus someone can use it as weapon.


a pool is a recreational thing.
a car is a transportation thing.
a gun is an insurance policy against evil people whether it be a lone criminal or a tyrannical government.

to me out of those 3 a gun is the most important thing.

why would you wanna ban an insurance policy of the people. because a few people got killed by guns doesnt mean it should be banned just like a pool itr should not be banned.

so whats the reason for banning it?
because its a weapon? that's not fair!
because its a leading cause of dead? then isnt it reasonable to ban other reasons of death?
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What the hell are you rambling about?
tldr

Do you really believe that swimming pools and guns have allot in common? Just trying to find out your level of stupidity
 
fishonjazz said:
What the hell are you rambling about?
tldr

Do you really believe that swimming pools and guns have allot in common? Just trying to find out your level of stupidity
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why should guns be banned? answer me that. because you will just say tl:dr, if u answered, i will explain further because i gotta simplify it for u
a. because they are weapons?
b. because it is a leading cause of death
 
DutchJazzer said:
why should guns be banned? answer me that. because you will just say tl:dr, if u answered, i will explain further because i gotta simplify it for u
a. because they are weapons?
b. because it is a leading cause of death
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I don't think guns should be banned.
You don't know how to answer questions and think swimming pools are like guns.
You are dumber than I thought after all
 
fishonjazz said:
I don't think guns should be banned.
You don't know how to answer questions and think swimming pools are like guns.
You are dumber than I thought after all
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i am arguing from a banned point of view. because this thread is about banning.
this thread is titled left winning at banning guns.
because of all legislation gun shops in san fran closed, if this trend spreads guns hop everywhere closed slowly but surely leading to a ban.

MVP wants em banned, why i don't know if it because it kills children then why stop at guns. why not go to cars and pools?
to me the benefit of a gun far outweigh the benefits of a pool. and depending on your geographical location access to public transportation etc etc a gun might be more important then a car.

a gun is FAR more important than a pool. so if it is about saving llives. i would rather a pool be banned.

if it is about people not being allowed to have weapons only governments, then its a question of promoting TYRANY and a monopoly on self defense. aka royalty is protected by the gun obama, the pope and the "nazi-queen of england"
The peasants their live is not as valuable as the royals so they dont get the same protection.

which mean not everyman is EQUAL
 
MVP said:
Never said I want them banned. They must be strictly regulated.
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then why argue in this thread, go in the other thread titled murica. this one is about all the regulation leading to an outright BAN. because thats what happened in san fran and in california this might happen stateswidde.
 
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