BYU Grad Judge orders same sex couple to give up their foster baby.

[green]

Everyone, the couple, the state, the mother, wants the couple to have the baby...except the judge.

He ordered the baby taken away because they are lesbian. No other reason.

Think the church's stance still does no harm? Interesting timing on this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...aying-shell-be-better-off-with-heterosexuals/

 

[str8line]

Too many mormons just can't control their urge to **** on others.

aloof
arrogant
condescending
egotistic
elitist
haughty
high-and-mighty
high-flown
high-hat
ostentatious
overbearing
patronizing
persnickety
pompous
pretentious
putting on airs
remote
sniffy
snippy
snobby
snooty
snotty
supercilious
superior
swanky
tony
uppity

 

[Stoked]

Shameful. This judge should be removed from the bench.

 

[Stoked]

Too many mormons just can't control their urge to **** on others.

aloof
arrogant
condescending
egotistic
elitist
haughty
high-and-mighty
high-flown
high-hat
ostentatious
overbearing
patronizing
persnickety
pompous
pretentious
putting on airs
remote
sniffy
snippy
snobby
snooty
snotty
supercilious
superior
swanky
tony
uppity

Change "Mormons" to "people" and we agree. This is no more frequent among Mormons that any other group of people.

 

[str8line]

Change "Mormons" to "people" and we agree. This is no more frequent among Mormons that any other group of people.

Yes, there are as sholes everywhere. And there are many mormons who are solid. But in my experience of nearly 30 years living in Utah it has become more and more apparent that a disproportionate number of mormons view themselves as superior to others. The LDS church needs to settle the **** down.

 

[Stoked]

Yes, there are as sholes everywhere. And there are many mormons who are solid. But in my experience of nearly 30 years living in Utah it has become more and more apparent that a disproportionate number of mormons view themselves as superior to others. The LDS church needs to settle the **** down.

Don't equate Utah Mormons to all Mormons. Utah Mormons are a whole different breed. I say this after having lived in north and south Utah, Denver, Seattle, Memphis, Honduras and LA.

I don't fault the LDS church for their stance on gay issues. Except for the child oriented policy of course.

But their policy has no place, none, on the bench.

 

[str8line]

Don't equate Utah Mormons to all Mormons. Utah Mormons are a whole different breed. I say this after having lived in north and south Utah, Denver, Seattle, Memphis, Honduras and LA.

I agree. I live in Sandy and have had a bunch of mormon neighbors, and those who have moved from outside of Utah are different. I have even had a few of them discuss the phenomenon with me. Again, not all Utah mormons are bad either, but among many the arrogance is palpable.

 

[mellow]

Shameful. This judge should be removed from the bench.

He has a history of being out there on many issues. I think he likes attention, which is an indictment of him not BYU or the church, or Utah Mormons, or people from Price, or guys who drive Fords.

 

[mellow]

Dupe

 

[str8line]

He has a history of being out there on many issues. I think he likes attention, which is an indictment of him not BYU or the church, or Utah Mormons, or people from Price, or guys who drive Fords.

I get what you're saying, but it's almost always the religious who want to take away anothers rights, isn't it? If the LDS church weren't against gay people do you think he would have made this ruling?

 

[RandyForRubio]

I get what your saying, but it's almost always the religious who want to take away anothers rights, isn't it?

Lol.

 

[Harambe]

Yes. We just word it differently.

FTFY

 

[Stoked]

I get what you're saying, but it's almost always the religious who want to take away anothers rights, isn't it? If the LDS church weren't against gay people do you think he would have made this ruling?

I disagree. Every movement wants to place their needs and wants above everyone elses. It is pronounced here because Mormons do have the power.

There are examples of this in pretty much every movement, ideology, group...

 

[NAOS]

I get what you're saying, but it's almost always the religious who want to take away anothers rights, isn't it? If the LDS church weren't against gay people do you think he would have made this ruling?

that's fascism, bro. Sometimes religious communities get into fascism; sometimes they don't.

 

[mellow]

I get what your saying, but it's almost always the religious who want to take away anothers rights, isn't it? If the LDS church weren't against gay people do you think he would have made this ruling?

I don't know if this guy goes to church, do you? To be honest, I don't even know what it means anymore to say a person is religious, or goes to church or even what it means to say a person is Mormon.

I don't know what motivated this guy to act so stupidly. But even someone from Price could know this wouldn't go unnoticed, and would bring a firestorm of attention. Most of us could probably make a pretty accurate prediction of how this will end. So why do it at all? To me, his history suggeststhat he likes to create controversy and bring the spotlight on himself. So in a way I do agree with you, if the headlines this week were not all about same sex couples being called apostates, i wonder, would he have made such a ruling?

 

[Gameface]

I disagree. Every movement wants to place their needs and wants above everyone elses. It is pronounced here because Mormons do have the power.

This is what I was going to say. I don't think it has anything to do with LDS belief or LDS culture. It has to do with being an overwhelming majority and completely dominating politics. There is a view amongst many Utah Mormons that this is THEIR place and it's their right to run it they way they want to despite the fact that other people live here, and have deep roots here, as well.

 

[Harambe]

A copy of the court order by Judge Scott Johansen, a juvenile court judge in Utah’s Seventh District, was not immediately available, but the Salt Lake Tribune confirmed its contents. Hoagland told KUTV that Johansen said that “through his research he had found out that kids in homosexual homes don’t do as well as they do in heterosexual homes.” She added that, when the judge was asked to show the research, he wouldn’t.

So not only does he unwilling to show any evidence leading to his decision, but doesn't even consider that a child can be raised in an LGBT environment successfully(even if they don't "do as well")

In another unusual case, from 2012, Johansen pondered the fate of a teenager facing assault charges for cutting off most of a toddler’s hair. It was eye for an eye that day: Johansen ordered the teenager’s mother to cut off her daughter’s ponytail in exchange for a lighter sentence.

Is this kind of thing normal in youth courts?

 

[♪alt13]

As a Utahn I'm tired of my state getting embarrassed over this.

Oh... Kentucky you think you can take the press on this with a measly county clerk? HA! We take your clerk and we raise you a judge. You can't hang with our anti-gayness, you Kentucky *** lovers.

 

[str8line]

As a Utahn I'm tired of my state getting embarrassed over this.

I'm much more concerned with gay people being classified as unworthy of equal rights. Actually there is a benefit to any mormon wackiness in that hopefully fewer people want to move here...I like my biking trails uncrowded and my powder untracked.

 

[bigb]

I get what you're saying, but it's almost always the religious who want to take away anothers rights, isn't it?

Wow. This statement just ruined any and all credibility you may have had. Absolute moron.