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Terror attack on US soil with 12 casualties!

carolinajazz said:
...my point is THIS was not a "true" act of "terrorism"....just a nut case with an axe to grind with no religious connection!
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Since when is religion required for terrorism? Can't really get much "truer" to terrorism than walking in and killing unarmed people because you disagree with them. Just because he's not a Muslim extremist does not mean he isn't a terrorist.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Since when is religion required for terrorism? Can't really get much "truer" to terrorism than walking in and killing unarmed people because you disagree with them. Just because he's not a Muslim extremist does not mean he isn't a terrorist.
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Most, not all, but MOST terrorist attacks are religious in motive, true or false?
 
Out of curiosity why do you guys engage with Carolinajazz?

He is the trolliest troll who ever trolled.
 
Zombie said:
Out of curiosity why do you guys engage with Carolinajazz?

He is the trolliest troll who ever trolled.
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Ncoloradojazz has him beat
 
Zombie said:
Out of curiosity why do you guys engage with Carolinajazz?

He is the trolliest troll who ever trolled.
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I only occasionally comment towards him. Never really get into a discussion with him.
 
Zombie said:
Out of curiosity why do you guys engage with Carolinajazz?

He is the trolliest troll who ever trolled.
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You're just saying that because you don't like racists with a monkey's IQ.
 
So wait, an anti-abortionist who goes into a PP and kills people is not doing it based on religious motivation? Well, that would be a first.

How in the world would anyone claim this wasn't religiously motivated?
 
BabyPeterzz said:
So when do we admit that the USA has a problem with radical, fundamentalist, white, Christians?
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What percentage of these killers are Christian (genuine question)? Also are we talking only mass shootings or all shootings?

Sandyhook and Aurora shooters were not Christian were they?
 
Gameface said:
So wait, an anti-abortionist who goes into a PP and kills people is not doing it based on religious motivation? Well, that would be a first.

How in the world would anyone claim this wasn't religiously motivated?
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There are atheist who are anti-abortion, true or false? There are loads of other people who don't go to church or profess any denomination that are anti-abortion, true or false?
 
carolinajazz said:
There are atheist who are anti-abortion, true or false? There are loads of other people who don't go to church or profess any denomination that are anti-abortion, true or false?
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True. There just aren't any who are so delusional about their opposition, thinking that the workers at a clinic deserve to die and that their supernatural king will reward them for killing those workers.
 
Gameface said:
True. There just aren't any who are so delusional about their opposition, thinking that the workers at a clinic deserve to die and that their supernatural king will reward them for killing those workers.
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Speculation.

True lol
 
Stoked said:
What percentage of these killers are Christian (genuine question)? Also are we talking only mass shootings or all shootings?

Sandyhook and Aurora shooters were not Christian were they?
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I don't know. The US is roughly 70% Christian, so I would wager that many of "these killers" you're referring to identify as Christian. I didn't mention shootings in my post tho. Our country has a growing issue with the radical, fundamentalist, white, Christian, right-wing. On levels that span hate speech and propaganda, to violence and mass murder. The motive of latest act of murder has yet to be determined, so we'll see.

But if it is an act of religion and pro-life, are Christians and Pro-Life advocates, and I'm talking large orgs that represent them and not just individuals, ready to speak up against this? It's what they've asked of the Muslim community, I would like to see them put their money where their mouth is and really show opposition to this type of behavior. I'll hold my breath.
 
We are experiencing a growing problem with domestic terrorism. It's tough looking in the mirror sometimes.


https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0

In a survey we conducted with the Police Executive Research Forum last year of 382 law enforcement agencies, 74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of the top three terrorist threats in their jurisdiction; 39 percent listed extremism connected with Al Qaeda or like-minded terrorist organizations. And only 3 percent identified the threat from Muslim extremists as severe, compared with 7 percent for anti-government and other forms of extremism.
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An officer from a large metropolitan area said that “militias, neo-Nazis and sovereign citizens” are the biggest threat we face in regard to extremism. One officer explained that he ranked the right-wing threat higher because “it is an emerging threat that we don’t have as good of a grip on, even with our intelligence unit, as we do with the Al Shabab/Al Qaeda issue, which we have been dealing with for some time.” An officer on the West Coast explained that the “sovereign citizen” anti-government threat has “really taken off,” whereas terrorism by American Muslim is something “we just haven’t experienced yet.”
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Despite public anxiety about extremists inspired by Al Qaeda and the Islamic State, the number of violent plots by such individuals has remained very low. Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in an average of six terrorism-related plots against targets in the United States. Most were disrupted, but the 20 plots that were carried out accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.

In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.
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