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Utah Legislature to Audit U of U Athletics, In Light of BYU Rivalry Suspension

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https://www.sltrib.com/news/3557683-155/legislature-will-audit-university-of-utah

Wow.

Yes, we all know the LDS Church can wield the power of our State Legislature. But spending political capital on this? So much for keeping the powder dry. In fact, just goes to show how easy and thoughtless their influence is wielded. Things more important than BYU, because we know that this is what it's all about:

1. Box Elder/Weber/Davis/SL/Summit/Wasatch/Utah County air quality
2. Weber/SLCo Homelessness
4. Medicaid Expansion/Solution
5. Affordable Housing
6. Redevelopment and Infrastructure

They're addressing some of these, but with none of the expedience of addressing the Utah/BYU rivalry.

Funny.
 
Funny that absolutely none of that article dealt with the LDS church. And yet somehow you view it as evidence that the church has power over the legislature.

But fwiw I'm a Utah taxpayer and I fully support efforts to make people like Chris Hill and Larry K more accountable to the will of the people of the state. What too many don't get is that the U is accountable to everyone in the state, not just to the U fans.

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colton said:
Funny that absolutely none of that article dealt with the LDS church. And yet somehow you view it as evidence that the church has power over the legislature.

But fwiw I'm a Utah taxpayer and I fully support efforts to make people like Chris Hill and Larry K more accountable to the will of the people of the state. What too many don't get is that the U is accountable to everyone in the state, not just to the U fans.

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I'm only stating the obvious, and I've seen it first hand. In fact, this very subject was discussed in front of me by lawmakers. If you don't think the LDS Church has power over the legislature you're incorrect. Period.
 
This is absolutely an example of the LDS church exercising their influence over the legislature, just as they did with the medical marijuana bill (HB73) and the anti-discrimination bill. Not only that, but the legislature needs further time to consider removing the zion curtain from restaurants (hint, they can "study" the other 49 states to figure out how it's done).
This has been one of the most ridiculous legislative sessions I've seen. Or maybe it's just more out in the open this year? I don't know, but it's absolutely horrible.

But on this subject, the U athletic department is being taught a lesson. It has nothing to do with the legitimacy of an audit, the audit is being used as a means of retaliation plain and simple.
 
Maybe there needs to be an audit at BYU to figure out why their sports programs are so prone to criminal violence during games.

What is it about Mormon culture and that institutions sports programs that leads it's players to act like undisciplined thugs?
 
colton said:
Funny that absolutely none of that article dealt with the LDS church. And yet somehow you view it as evidence that the church has power over the legislature.

But fwiw I'm a Utah taxpayer and I fully support efforts to make people like Chris Hill and Larry K more accountable to the will of the people of the state. What too many don't get is that the U is accountable to everyone in the state, not just to the U fans.

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Funny that you either cannot see, or prefer to ignore, the obvious.
 
That legislators are influenced by their religion and by having BYU add an alma mater I don't doubt. That the LDS church is directly influencing to pass legislation like this? I doubt it. Where's the evidence?

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Gameface said:
Maybe there needs to be an audit at BYU to figure out why their sports programs are so prone to criminal violence during games.

What is it about Mormon culture and that institutions sports programs that leads it's players to act like undisciplined thugs?
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If BYU were a publicly funded university, that would be entirely appropriate. As it is, you are free to contribute or not to the institution that governs BYU. I have no such freedom with regards to the U. I am FORCED to contribute.

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colton said:
That legislators are influenced by their religion and by having BYU add an alma mater I don't doubt. That the LDS church is directly influencing to pass legislation like this? I doubt it. Where's the evidence?

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I guess if you draw a narrow enough definition of what "the LDS church" is then you can make the claim that they might not be directly influencing this. Whatever is behind this audit, I think most could agree that it is the result of a dynamic that's unique to the state of Utah.
 
And sad that our legislators so entirely lack professionalism and dignity that they allow their faith and connection to the LDS church and its private university to have this effect on their legislative actions.
 
Gameface said:
And sad that our legislators so entirely lack professionalism and dignity that they allow their faith and connection to the LDS church and its private university to have this effect on their legislative actions.
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I think most of them would be very upfront in stating that their church is more important to them than their job or their government. These legislators are simply showing themselves to be exactly who they claimed to be when elected, but some of us don't like it.
 
The Salt Lake City-based Power Five school reaps much more sports revenue than its Utah neighbors. It took in $56 million in 2014, spending $50 million. Utah State University took in $25 million; Weber State University received $13 million, according to NCAA figures.

In 2010 and 2011, the U. allowed its agreements with USU — which began playing U. teams in 1892 — and Weber to expire.

The Utah Legislature would not be the first to write a tipoff into law — in 1983, Kentucky passed a legislative measure requiring the universities of Louisville and Kentucky to play each other in the regular season, ending more than a half-century of distance between the foes. But Utah's body of 104 representatives has "no interest," Urquhart said, in legislating basketball season. "I know how much rivalry there is," Davis said, but "as far as trying to force one school and another school to play each other, I've got more important things."

Senate President Wayne Niederhauser said that while the rivalry cancellation did put the Utes and college sports on the committee's radar, it did not incite the probe.

Committee members chose to first scrutinize the U. after realizing they had yet to review a school sports office. The U., the panel thought, "would be a good place to start," Niederhauser said.

The U.'s Pershing declined an interview. His school is "accustomed to audits," he said in a prepared statement, "and recognizes the opportunities for improvement" they produce.


Interesting article. I read the whole thing and didn't see anything about byu or the church being the reasoning behind the audit. Doesn't the u of u have plenty of mormons working for and attending the university? From this statement, (Committee members chose to first scrutinize the U. after realizing they had yet to review a school sports office. The U., the panel thought, "would be a good place to start," Niederhauser said.) it sounds as if this is something that they should have already been doing and it sounds like they are going to audit other universities in the state soon after? Maybe they started with the utes because they are the most prominent of universities in the state and they make the most money?

Poor u of u. always under attack from byu and the church. Those thugs are always bullying the university of utah. I hope the u of u doesn't run out of tissue.
 
No one is forcing the utes to play byu next year and have their players subjected to a barrage of haymakers from byu players. Dont worry, the ute players and coaches will still be safe next year.

Sounds like what is happening is that an organization that makes tons of money from taxpayers is getting audited. Strange stuff indeed.
 
"Legislature will audit University of Utah athletics in wake of BYU rivalry suspension"

The title makes it sound like this is because of the rivalry suspension. Then, if you read the article, you find it has nothing to do with that. At least there is nothing in the article pointing to it having anything to do with the byu/utah rivalry

Just a red herring by someone at the SL Trib to get more responses
 
Won't someone please think of the (Utah) children???

Their safety is at risk!

Someone please ensure that none of the Ute players are ever touched or bumped! Poor things

Having said that, has our legislature fixed our worst in the nation air quality?
Have they lifted us out of the dead last in per pupil funding for public education? Our largest classroom sizes are going to get even larger with the largest teacher shortage in recent history coming about! Apparently our legislature thinks that people should be jumping at the chance for a $30k job and endless abuse from entitled parents and idiotic legislators.
Have they passed medical marijuana yet?
How about Medicaid Expansion so that 100,000 Utahns will finally have health care?
Have they explained yet how we're supposed to fund Greg Hughes' shiny new prison? Or is the "money tree" gonna pay for that too along with the $2 billion dollar Lake Powell Pipeline?

If not, then why are we wasting time investigating who the Utes? Screw sports. Our legislature should get work done before they waste time on this nonsense.
 
colton said:
That legislators are influenced by their religion and by having BYU add an alma mater I don't doubt. That the LDS church is directly influencing to pass legislation like this? I doubt it. Where's the evidence?

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I don't think that the LDS church is directly influencing this either. I haven't seen any press releases like I've seen regarding issues such as medical marijuana or anti-hate crime laws.

I also don't think that our legislature should be wasting time on this. Not as long as our air quality and public education issues remain unresolved.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I think most of them would be very upfront in stating that their church is more important to them than their job or their government. These legislators are simply showing themselves to be exactly who they claimed to be when elected, but some of us don't like it.
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This has most definitely been my experience, I've had coworkers tell me straight up that this is the case. While I don't have issue with the LDS doctrine guiding their decisions, blindly following the LDS Church's commands as a PUBLIC EMPLOYEE is concerning.
 
Gameface said:
And sad that our legislators so entirely lack professionalism and dignity that they allow their faith and connection to the LDS church and its private university to have this effect on their legislative actions.
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This is the heart of the complaints about the Church in politics. So many people choose to simply be sheep and follow along blindly. I'm an active, temple recommend holding Mormon who has plenty of different opinions than the church and "its" legislators.
 
colton said:
That legislators are influenced by their religion and by having BYU add an alma mater I don't doubt. That the LDS church is directly influencing to pass legislation like this? I doubt it. Where's the evidence?

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Has the LDS church been mainly silent in legislation in the past? All I know of is the California Legislation 8 push, or whatever that one was.

The rest of the control, IMO, seems to come from lay doctrine believing voters using the democratic system to vote into office. As our system is meant to be.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
https://www.sltrib.com/news/3557683-155/legislature-will-audit-university-of-utah

Wow.

Yes, we all know the LDS Church can wield the power of our State Legislature. But spending political capital on this? So much for keeping the powder dry. In fact, just goes to show how easy and thoughtless their influence is wielded. Things more important than BYU, because we know that this is what it's all about:

1. Box Elder/Weber/Davis/SL/Summit/Wasatch/Utah County air quality
2. Weber/SLCo Homelessness
4. Medicaid Expansion/Solution
5. Affordable Housing
6. Redevelopment and Infrastructure

They're addressing some of these, but with none of the expedience of addressing the Utah/BYU rivalry.

Funny.
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There is a huge push both money wise and regulatory on The Hill for air quality improvements. I obviously cannot express my thoughts much further on the matter.
 
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