The Jazz target in the offseason.
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Oh gawd [MENTION=345]Stifle Tower[/MENTION]. You Jingles haters are silly.
Umm, we need KD and we will get KD. Where else he is going? Dallas or LA? I do not think so!!!
If I had to guess, we keep everyone on the roster we now currently have besides Booker.
I don't think Booker re-signs, so we might go out and sign some kind of PF (if we don't use our 1st round pick on one).
Other than that, our roster is mostly full, especially if we sign any of our 2nd round picks. We could make more space by cutting Withey (dont see why we would) or CJ (I could see that happening given the fact he has fallen out of the rotation and has generally been awful this year after showing promise last year).
So if we cut CJ, I could see us picking up a wing in FA (if we don't draft one). I'd rather draft one though. Given our current spot in the draft and what Mocks are projecting, Korkmaz would be great and I really like LaVert (I think LaVert will be next year's Josh Richardson) in the 2nd round.
Stifle Tower
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Name all the teams that have had success by 100% organic growth?
SA has always added key players. LMA is a prime example this season.
GS made some good trades such as Bogut, Iggy.
Cleveland? Ummm, LBJ
Atlanta? Millsap, DMC, Korver, etc.
Miami? LBJ and Bosh
Go back and look at all the previous 15 years of NBA championships. Nearly all made significant FA signings. SA was the team that developed most of their players. They primarily strengthened their bench with FA's. But you also have to factor in trades. Lakers with Gasol, for example. Lindsey has pretty much used only the draft. Mack is their only "big" trade lately. Of course there's the Favors/DWill trade under KOC. And Booker is the "big" free agent deal.
Jazz don't need to add a superstar (well, they're not going to get one). But they DO need to upgrade. Ingles, Johnson, Booker, Withey: all signed as FA's. Jazz can replace a couple of those with better players PLUS add a rookie. I'm not a drama queen. I'm saying EVERY team has injuries. Ingles and Johnson have both played significant minutes. Wouldn't it be nice to not have such a drop-off when one of Burks/Hayward/Hood goes out next year? Because the odds are one or two will. And what if Gobert or Favors misses games. I like Lyles, but who do you play behind him? Are we satisfied with just re-signing Booker?
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Its going to be difficult to upgrade any of those players.
Booker: Whoever we sign to replace Booker is going to be behind Lyles in the depth chart. So trying to find a player better than Booker who is willing to get DNP-CDs because he is the 3rd PF. Only way that is going to happen is if you overpay for someone who will probably hardly play. We are going to have to draft another PF or sign a cheap guy who is willing to bench ride. If the Jazz follow suit, they will find an under the radar guy in his mid 20's, either out of the D-League or barely hanging on in the league.
Ingles/Johnson: Yes, this is probably where we do actually need an upgrade, but again, if we draft someone like Korkmaz, do we really want to sign a FA who is going to want playing time? Signing a Batum would be stupid. You can't play 4 wings that good enough minutes to justify the cost. Batum is also super redundant to what we have so the benefit of signing him for so much money wouldn't be optimal. Ingles is going to be on the team next year though. If I had to guess, we draft someone to take CJ's place, but if we don't, then we will probably just find another player like we found Johnson/Millsap and sign them to a cheap non-guaranteed deal.
Withey: Are you serious? Upgrade Withey? He has been perfect in his role. The price we are paying for him is about as good as you can get. Good luck finding a center under 10 million dollars who can provide the defensive safety net he gives us.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Agree.
Let's look at these teams.
1. Spurs drafted TD Parker, and Ginobili win many championships. Sign LMA while being very good.
2. Drafted Curry, Thompson, Green, Barns trade for Bogut and AI past their primes. As far as I know, no big splashes in free agency.
3. Atlanta signs Sap and DMC. They are a good team not title contenders. They snuck up on teams last year, but even then, not title contenders.
You sound like a drama queen to me. The one team that made a big splash in free agency isn't a contender. The Spurs were in a position where they could spend money being an older vet team already contending with their big three probably on their last contracts. Jazz are still learning to win and working on keeping their core.
Jazz draft well make a key trade to load up on talent. If Exum works out we will be title contenders.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Agree with all of this. I lol'd at his upgrade Whithy comment.
If we signed DMC like Atlanta did there would probably be a large # of posters complaining that we just signed a scrub who can't shoot.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Also I never said anything about 100% organic growth all I said is that spending a ton of money doesn't work most of the time and can set a franchise back. Very risky especially with a growing and talented young core like ours.
NAOS
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I guess we're stuck with what we have, huh?
I'm OK with spending $$$ on someone, but it has to make sense. I don't think Batum makes sense. He is redundant to what the wings we have are already really good at, so paying him a ton of money just doenst add a lot of value IMO.
I'd much rather sign Mike Conley than Batum. Conley adds something that we don't have and makes us much better. I'm not sure how much better Batum would make us, maybe 1-2 more wins. Conley could make us 10 wins better.
Conley is the only realistic FA I see having a chance at (who would really make a difference and not be a lateral move from what we already have).
Let's hear your plan on getting Kent Bazemore. I'm sure it's great. I mean, I doubt Bazemore wants to be a starter or even a 6th man, Let's pay a guy over 10 million to be our 4th wing.
jimmy eat jazz
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I wouldn't mind Barnes; however, I'm guessing Barnes will be looking for a) big time money and b) a more prominent role in the offense. If the Jazz were to sign him, it would have to be at about $15M or so per year, I would guess, can the Jazz afford it given the need to resign other players coming down the road? Also, I doubt Barnes would come with the understanding that he'd come off the bench. So, that means that, in all practically, we move Hood to the bench. Are you Ok with that? Is Barnes better than Hood? I'm not sure he is. I wouldn't mind Hood coming off the bench, I suppose, but I'm not sure how that would work out, unless the Jazz are contemplating playing a lot of small ball moving forward.
NAOS
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I'm not telling you my plan.
If anybody else would like to know, PM me or go over to the TPP forum where I've laid it all out. tia
Game6Conley
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Stifle Tower
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What's this obsession with Whithey? Good gawd, the guy is a scrub. That's why SO many teams were falling over each other trying to sign him. Jazz are about the only team he fits on.
Why do we need 2 offensively-challenged centers? How about some versatility with Favors, Gobert, Lyles and a combo 4/5 who is a solid defender but can also hit some shots? Whether draft, FA or trade, he'd take Booker's spot and his minutes.
And a wing replaces Johnson and/or Ingles. I love Conley, but he's unrealistic. Jazz have plenty of cap room for only 2 more seasons. Conley is going to get near max for 4.