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Catchall said:
True, but a) Hayward is a better overall player than Favors, and b) Lyles is going to start taking minutes from Favors this season, whereas Hayward doesn't have anyone challenging him for minutes at the SF.


A line-up with Exum/Murray/Hayward/Lyles/Gobert with Hood and Davis/Maker coming off the bench is a good, balanced line-up.
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K, so we're giving up on defense then. Good to know.
 
Honestly, I think the best move for the Jazz is to take one of these upside bigs in Skal or Maker at 12. If it pans out, you've got Rudy, Dante and a third freak surrounded by competent well-rounded players.
 
BENTLEY said:
Is Kyle Wiltjer gonna go undrafted??

I didn't see him listed on either round of the DX mock.
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Probably. Maybe a team will take a 2nd round flier, but this draft is super deep in role players. Kyle is super talented offensively, but he can't play a lick of defense. Should be a good Euro player.
 
The more I look into Thon Maker, the more he looks like a viable pick. He'll be a plus defender for sure and his offense is a bit further along than I thought. If he hits 75% of his free-throws, I think you can bet on his offense continuing to develop.

The guy was the #1 or #2 recruit in his high school class, a strong class at that, for multiple seasons. There's probably some recency bias against him, since he wasn't expected to be in this draft class and he didn't show out in the Nike Hoop Summit, which is basically a loosely coached exhibition game. People want him to be KG or Anthony Davis, but that artificially high expectation is leading to him being underrated, imo. I think you have to consider him starting at 8 or 9 in this draft. He's not the safe pick, but he's probably a good pick.
 
#bern said:
Probably. Maybe a team will take a 2nd round flier, but this draft is super deep in role players. Kyle is super talented offensively, but he can't play a lick of defense. Should be a good Euro player.
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Ryan Anderson doesn't play defense either. If Wiltjer = Anderson then color me eager to use a second round pick on him.
 
Catchall said:
The more I look into Thon Maker, the more he looks like a viable pick. He'll be a plus defender for sure and his offense is a bit further along than I thought. If he hits 75% of his free-throws, I think you can bet on his offense continuing to develop.

The guy was the #1 or #2 recruit in his high school class, a strong class at that, for multiple seasons. There's probably some recency bias against him, since he wasn't expected to be in this draft class and he didn't show out in the Nike Hoop Summit, which is basically a loosely coached exhibition game. People want him to be KG or Anthony Davis, but that artificially high expectation is leading to him being underrated, imo. I think you have to consider him starting at 8 or 9 in this draft. He's not the safe pick, but he's probably a good pick.
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I totally hear you, but lets not forget the lessons of Johnathan Bender and Stromile Swift.
 
BENTLEY said:
Is Kyle Wiltjer gonna go undrafted??

I didn't see him listed on either round of the DX mock.
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He tested much better than people thought he would at the combine. Gives some hope he can play a small amount of defense. If Novak can play in the NBA for many years he has a chance.
 
BENTLEY said:
Ryan Anderson doesn't play defense either. If Wiltjer = Anderson then color me eager to use a second round pick on him.
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They aren't close at all. Anderson was also a pretty good rebounder for a few years... Not sure if it's still the case.
 
Carbon13 said:
I totally hear you, but lets not forget the lessons of Johnathan Bender and Stromile Swift.
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Bender would have been good but jacked his knees up... I'm not sure stromile swift was committed to basketball.

That said no one can really say anything definitive about what he will be in the NBA. I'd take a chance on Thon but probably not at 12 for me... If we traded back and had two firsts I'd be stoked to have him.
 
#bern said:
1) He's not that good offensively.

2) Anderson can at least attempt to play defense. Wiltjer would be worse than Kanter.
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Handlogten's Heros said:
They aren't close at all. Anderson was also a pretty good rebounder for a few years... Not sure if it's still the case.
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This guy brings up a good point though.
Novaks defense was less than stellar from what I recall.

Shooters with some size have value even when they suck lol
NCJazz said:
He tested much better than people thought he would at the combine. Gives some hope he can play a small amount of defense. If Novak can play in the NBA for many years he has a chance.
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