Never Trump

[Stoked]

yu know as Mormons I would figure some here would be familiar with how damaging bigotry can be. I suppose it's fine so long as it isn't directed towards them.

Way to ignore him getting crushed in Utah. Latest Utah poll has trump at 29%, Clinton at 23%, Johnson at 16% and undecided at 29%.

I won't be surprised if a Super PAC runs an add in UT along these lines. Would play very well here IMO.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Way to ignore him getting crushed in Utah. Latest Utah poll has trump at 29%, Clinton at 23%, Johnson at 16% and undecided at 29%.

I won't be surprised if a Super PAC runs an add in UT along these lines. Would play very well here IMO.

This is in response to Mormons here who've voiced Trump support. Hence "some here".

 

[Stoked]

This is in response to Mormons here who've voiced Trump support. Hence "some here".

Thankfully they are the minority. So far. Hopefully it stays that way.

I really want Johnson to hit 15% in polls to get in on the national debates. Had one recent poll place him at 12%.

 

[Scat]

Americans showing support for a candidate who thinks a judge's ancestry and/or faith hinders their ability to competent legal practice.

I think you would be hard pressed to find any judge who's ancestry/religion/faith/personal experiences don't flavor their decisions. Especially in cases that are about issues they have been personally affected by.

"Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging" ~ Sonia Sotomayor

 

[Gameface]

I think you would be hard pressed to find any judge who's ancestry/religion/faith/personal experiences don't flavor their decisions. Especially in cases that are about issues they have been personally affected by.

"Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging" ~ Sonia Sotomayor

You think this judge went to a fake university? That people of his ethnicity have a history of going to fake universities?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Americans showing support for a candidate who thinks a judge's ancestry and/or faith hinders their ability to competent legal practice.

yu know as Mormons I would figure some here would be familiar with how damaging bigotry can be. I suppose it's fine so long as it isn't directed towards them.

Yea, you obviously read my glowing support post. Clearly.

I'll probably end up voting for a 3rd party. I think both of those options are pure crap.

 

[JimLes]

Congratulations on being so ahead of the curve. But I don't see the point, if any, that you're trying to make.

That the candidate being offered as a viable alternative to business-as-usual politicians is a business-as-usual politician?

 

[Red]

The Washington Post published a story headlined "Donald Trump seems to connect President Obama to the Orlando Shootings". As a result, Trump announced he is revoking press credentials for The Washington Post. He has, during the campaign, threatened freedom of the press on other occasions as well....

https://www.slate.com/blogs/the_sla...okes_washington_post_s_press_credentials.html

The "offensive" Washington Post story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ent-obama-was-involved-with-orlando-shooting/

 

[Red]

https://www.boston.com/culture/education/2016/06/13/ken-burns-tears-donald-trump-stanford-speech

"“As a student of history, I recognize this type,” Burns said “He emerges everywhere and in all eras. We see nurtured in his campaign an incipient proto-fascism, a nativist anti-immigrant Know Nothing-ism, a disrespect for the judiciary, the prospect of women losing authority over their own bodies, African Americans again asked to go to the back of the line, voter suppression gleefully promoted, jingoistic saber rattling, a total lack of historical awareness, a political paranoia that, predictably, points fingers, always making the other wrong.”

“These are all virulent strains that have at times infected us in the past,” Burns continued. “But they now loom in front of us again – all happening at once.”

 

[fishonjazz]

If I agreed with every last thing Trump wanted to do in office I still would not, could not vote for him.

He has displayed such low character that I do not consider him fit for the office. He is flat out disgusting.

This

 

[fishonjazz]

Way to ignore him getting crushed in Utah. Latest Utah poll has trump at 29%, Clinton at 23%, Johnson at 16% and undecided at 29%.

I won't be surprised if a Super PAC runs an add in UT along these lines. Would play very well here IMO.

What about bernie!?

 

[babe]

bunch of naïve idealists here.

whaddya expect? The hotbed of the journalistic Praetorian Guard of nattering nincompoop progressive cheerleaders gonna just sit down and listen to someone who is, apparently, not even a globalist?

Colton loves the UN, possibly considers it "family", but I still wonder if Trump is Hillary's and Bill's stooge to pave the way to another eight years in the White House. Pretty sure Trump won't really turn over the applecart in any significant way. Pretty sure he's a consensus sort of manager who will see the sense of going along with a lot of the program, and most of his own nattering will come to nothing.

Hillary, however, will be the wicked witch that will finally bring this nation to question the whole UN/globalist agenda.

So, Colton, there's your reason to vote for Trump.

 

[Red]

Just what we need, a Conspirator-in-Chief:

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/...es-conspiracy-theory-that-obama-supports-isis

Interesting that Trump revoked the press pass of the Washington Post for saying Trump suggested Obama sided with ISIS, then yesterday he tweeted that he was right to suggest it. Huh?? So, the Washington Post was right, then? God, this guy is so bizarre....

https://www.salon.com/2016/06/16/th...to_support_alex_jones_insane_smears_of_obama/

"It might or might not surprise you to learn that Alex Jones, the screechy egg-shaped weirdo in the video, is, perhaps, the most popular media spokesman for Donald Trump. The presumptive Republican presidential nominee has appeared on Jones’ show on numerous occasions to discuss everything from the latest poll numbers to a lengthy menu of conspiracy theories, most of which involve President Obama’s background or his nefarious goals — none of which have actually occurred in nearly eight years, but there’s still time, I suppose. It’s a perfect match given how Trump has, for years, helped to mainstream the falsehood that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii (he was), and, in pursuit of that effort, Trump even spent his own money to send investigators to Honolulu to snoop around for proof.

The fact that Trump markets in ridiculous and thoroughly debunked conspiracy theories should be enough to disqualify him from the presidency, along with countless other reasons beginning with the fact that he’s nothing more than an unqualified, clown-haired bigot who’s gullible enough to believe in some of the nonsense that Alex Jones sells to his mentally ill listeners. Someone should ask Trump if he believes the following Jones theories: 1) that the government is manufacturing more gay people by spiking juice boxes with chemicals that block testosterone; 2) that Obama used planes and small helicopters to move a super-tornado toward an Oklahoma town, destroying it; and 3) that there are shapeshifting lizard people from outer space living among us and manipulating our politics and economy."

Ah yes, Alex Jones, my favorite intellectual!

 

[babe]

^^^^unhinged.

Red, does your handle refer to the kind of "Red" heroes of the revolution?

Sometimes the rhetoric on the left is truly laughable. "Lizard People" is an occasional topic on Coast to Coast, otherwise termed "Reptilian aliens". Serious AI advocates like Siro who believe the universe is deterministic as some philosophers have developed the logic of inertial mechanical physics have a lot in common with the imagery of "Lizard People", meaning soul-less automatons who reflexively devour passing flies without any second thoughts, and that imagery has been applied to the philosophical foundations of international banking families, but I'd think most "Reds" would be all for calling Bankers "Lizard People". LOL

 

[Red]

^^^^unhinged.

Red, does your handle refer to the kind of "Red" heroes of the revolution?

Sometimes the rhetoric on the left is truly laughable. "Lizard People" is an occasional topic on Coast to Coast, otherwise termed "Reptilian aliens". Serious AI advocates like Siro who believe the universe is deterministic as some philosophers have developed the logic of inertial mechanical physics have a lot in common with the imagery of "Lizard People", meaning soul-less automatons who reflexively devour passing flies without any second thoughts, and that imagery has been applied to the philosophical foundations of international banking families, but I'd think most "Reds" would be all for calling Bankers "Lizard People". LOL

Good guess. Color of hair. Bye now.....

 

[Red]

Funny bit by Steve Colbert....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...6/15/colbert-trump-orlando-response/85920608/

 

[Red]

^^^^unhinged.

Red, does your handle refer to the kind of "Red" heroes of the revolution?

Sometimes the rhetoric on the left is truly laughable. "Lizard People" is an occasional topic on Coast to Coast, otherwise termed "Reptilian aliens". Serious AI advocates like Siro who believe the universe is deterministic as some philosophers have developed the logic of inertial mechanical physics have a lot in common with the imagery of "Lizard People", meaning soul-less automatons who reflexively devour passing flies without any second thoughts, and that imagery has been applied to the philosophical foundations of international banking families, but I'd think most "Reds" would be all for calling Bankers "Lizard People". LOL

Are you old enough to remember Edward R. Murrow? I was pretty young myself, but I remember. Anyone who cannot see the similarity between McCarthyism and Trumpism doesn't know his history very well. Fortunately, I do. My study of history, in fact, helps me immeasurably to understand the rise of Trump.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/media-murrow-moment_us_57584647e4b0ced23ca69e16

"“He didn’t create this situation of fear, he merely exploited it, and rather successfully.”

Murrow's description of Joseph McCarthy applies equally to Donald Trump. You'll have to forgive me if I don't like seeing such irrational, manipulative fear mongering spreading like a disease in the country I love.....

 

[babe]

Are you old enough to remember Edward R. Murrow? I was pretty young myself, but I remember. Anyone who cannot see the similarity between McCarthyism and Trumpism doesn't know his history very well. Fortunately, I do. My study of history, in fact, helps me immeasurably to understand the rise of Trump.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/media-murrow-moment_us_57584647e4b0ced23ca69e16

"“He didn’t create this situation of fear, he merely exploited it, and rather successfully.”

Murrow's description of Joseph McCarthy applies equally to Donald Trump. You'll have to forgive me if I don't like seeing such irrational, manipulative fear mongering spreading like a disease in the country I love.....

I'm older than you, and have studied history a little better, and reject jingoism and yellow journalism as intellectual foundations for opinion. Donald Trump is nothing like Hitler or Joe McCarthy. Trump is not in any serious way an ideological believer in either national socialism, racism of any kind, nor inclined to make hay of who other people associate with or support. He is a national populist along the lines of a practical problem solver who sees America as having had a run of weak leaders who don't know how to stand up for "America" as he understands it's former greatness.

I don't think Trump considers the Marxist ideology that is seen in much of the "progressive' or "new world order" agenda as the problem that needs to be addressed. He simply doesn't like the idea of America becoming just another member of the family of nations. Apparently, a lot of Americans share his intellectual notions. I don't think they are hunting for Reds or focused on international fascism either.

So those who link Trump to either Hitler or McCarthy are seeing bogeymen in their closets if they think Trump is anything like these historical persons. He's no George Wallace, either. Literally none of his thinking is actually directed along racial logic. He's focused on the glory of America as the great economic engine it has been, and could still be. He doesn't care who gets the jobs he wants to create by his schemes of practical reforms, he wants everyone to have jobs.

He believes in doing logical things that he thinks will improve American interests and America's standing as the relevant political power of the world.

I think he will prove to be sufficiently malleable in the hands of Washington's politicians that he will not threaten the foundations of ongoing agendas of international fascism, however, but it will take a little more time to get him on board as Hillary is now.

 

[Gameface]

I agree, Trump isn't like Hitler, really. Hitler became the leader of a major world power. Trump never will. Trump is a joke. A bad joke.

btw, I value Red's posts quite a lot.

 

[Boris]

I agree, Trump isn't like Hitler, really. Hitler became the leader of a major world power. Trump never will. Trump is a joke. A bad joke.

btw, I value Red's posts quite a lot.

Did you know Trump has only raised $59,000,000 verses Hillary at $300,000,000 and Bernie Sanders $207,000,000?

Trump is the only candidate we have ever seen who is not a bought and paid for special interests threat to liberty. He will not be the guy who puts in Patriot Acts he is the guy who will repeal them.