Extreme vegan facing charges for child abuse

[MVP]

https://globalnews.ca/news/2987838/...utting-him-on-strict-vegan-diet/?sf38078261=1

Ok, I hope infant will recover from severe malnutrition and idiot mother will go to jail, but I am getting really annoyed with extreme vegans. It's like freaking new religion, they do not read or listen to any scientific proof or any certified nutritionists who tells them it is not healthy!!! Simple scientific fact that humans can't produce vit B12 from non animal sources should tell you that we did not evolve to survive on plant based diet alone. Thus if you are stupid and going against your own physiology and nature at least supplement properly! What pisses me off even more is when they state that they care about animals but they wear leather shoes, belts and use other animal derived products. Freaking hypocrites.

 

[Ron Mexico]

This story is sad. Parents who are not properly feeding their children should be held responsible. It's also sad parents who feed their kid things like McDonald's or other junk food as their main diet. Some vegetarians and vegans do not understand diet well enough to support their decision. There are also annoying pushy vegans but most are not. It is possible to be very healthy and vegan. That does require paying attention to what you eat, just like being healthy and eating animal products. I am sure there are vegans who wear leather and use animal products but i am guessing they are in the minority. Most vegans who are doing it for the animals sake put great effort into not wearing leather and using other animal products. Otherwise they would not really be a vegan. However if they do use those other things they are at least greatly reducing animal cruelty as well as reducing their carbon footprint. Personally I eat meat and other animal products and presumably always will but I try to greatly reduce the amount of it and stick to when i really want it or there isn't another option that is vegan. I also like to hunt and fish for a decent chunk of my meat as well. But I respect someone who is trying to make the world a better place by being vegan as long as they are not annoying about it, same as people who recycle or anything else that is positive. Beef productions creates far more pollution than cars or anything else on the planet.

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[Gameface]

As broncster said, I think most vegans don't wear leather. My sister was a vegan for many years and she didn't wear leather or any other animal product. She wouldn't eat honey or anything with gelatin, either.

That said, my sister has a psychotic break that probably had a lot to do with malnutrition when she was a broke college student. After her recovery she started eating meat again.

 

[MVP]

This story is sad. Parents who are not properly feeding their children should be held responsible. It's also sad parents who feed their kid things like McDonald's or other junk food as their main diet. Some vegetarians and vegans do not understand diet well enough to support their decision. There are also annoying pushy vegans but most are not. It is possible to be very healthy and vegan. That does require paying attention to what you eat, just like being healthy and eating animal products. I am sure there are vegans who wear leather and use animal products but i am guessing they are in the minority. Most vegans who are doing it for the animals sake put great effort into not wearing leather and using other animal products. Otherwise they would not really be a vegan. However if they do use those other things they are at least greatly reducing animal cruelty as well as reducing their carbon footprint. Personally I eat meat and other animal products and presumably always will but I try to greatly reduce the amount of it and stick to when i really want it or there isn't another option that is vegan. I also like to hunt and fish for a decent chunk of my meat as well. But I respect someone who is trying to make the world a better place by being vegan as long as they are not annoying about it, same as people who recycle or anything else that is positive. Beef productions creates far more pollution than cars or anything else on the planet.

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Not a bad reply, but I doubt the last statement is true. Knowing how much pollution Chinese and Russian chemical plants produce I doubt that beef production can match that. Heck we have plastic soup in Pacific size of Texas floating around.

 

[MVP]

You guys know that Guiness stout uses fish bladders for its production? I had a friend vegan who was drinking Guiness during party ( I honestly can't believe anybody can like that piss) and almost threw up when I told him and he checked that it is indeed a fact lol.

 

[MVP]

After her recovery she started eating meat again.

I am happy for her.

 

[ConradA24]

Beef productions creates far more pollution than cars or anything else on the planet.

This is actually not even close to true.

 

[ConradA24]

As broncster said, I think most vegans don't wear leather. My sister was a vegan for many years and she didn't wear leather or any other animal product. She wouldn't eat honey or anything with gelatin, either.

That said, my sister has a psychotic break that probably had a lot to do with malnutrition when she was a broke college student. After her recovery she started eating meat again.

I've seen a lot of articles/ studies lately that are supporting the correlation between lack of B12 (that you get from beef) and mental illnesses.

 

[Ron Mexico]

There are vegan options for b12. Almost every vegan takes a b12 supplement or eats a vegan source of it. All vegans should take b12 supplement as should meet eaters over 50.

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[Ron Mexico]

This is actually not even close to true.

It's a blanket statement so that is unfair. But it is a bigger contributor to greenhouse gases than cars or all of the transportation industry and the largest producer of methane gases. I can post more about it when I'm at a computer but it is a devastating environment factor that largely goes unchecked.

 

[Gameface]

You guys know that Guiness stout uses fish bladders for its production? I had a friend vegan who was drinking Guiness during party ( I honestly can't believe anybody can like that piss) and almost threw up when I told him and he checked that it is indeed a fact lol.

It's called isenglass (sp) and it's not "in" the beer. It's a fining agent that pulls other particulates out of the beer as it settles into the trub which the now clear beer is separated from.

I'll post a picture of the trub next time I rack a beer. No one would want to consume it and it doesn't smell good at all. There are a lot of things that were in the beer before it settles out and is no longer part of the finished beer.

I personally use gelatin as a fining agent after I rack the beer but also use whirlfloc tabs at the end of the boil which contains "Irish moss" which is a type of seaweed, but I wouldn't say my beer has seaweed in it.

 

[MVP]

There are vegan options for b12. Almost every vegan takes a b12 supplement or eats a vegan source of it.

This is only partially true. There is no scientifically proven vegan source of B12. All vegans need to eat Vit B12 fortified foods or take Vit B12 supplement.
Here is great article on vegan health website debunking myths of vegan sources of Vit B12 like seaweed, spirulina, etc. by certified nutritionist. It contains few studies done on raw vegans, extreme vegans and other crazy people who thought they are going to outsmart their physiology and mother nature.

https://veganhealth.org/articles/vitaminb12

 

[MVP]

It's called isenglass (sp) and it's not "in" the beer. It's a fining agent that pulls other particulates out of the beer as it settles into the trub which the now clear beer is separated from.

I'll post a picture of the trub next time I rack a beer. No one would want to consume it and it doesn't smell good at all. There are a lot of things that were in the beer before it settles out and is no longer part of the finished beer.

I personally use gelatin as a fining agent after I rack the beer but also use whirlfloc tabs at the end of the boil which contains "Irish moss" which is a type of seaweed, but I wouldn't say my beer has seaweed in it.

Yeah I understand that it is not in the beer and it is only used for production. Honestly I could care less as I tried Guiness only one time in my life and said never again. Can't believe that **** is so popular. The worst beer ever!

 

[Gameface]

Yeah I understand that it is not in the beer and it is only used for production. Honestly I could care less as I tried Guiness only one time in my life and said never again. Can't believe that **** is so popular. The worst beer ever!

I wouldn't say worst beer ever but I don't drink it by choice.

 

[Ron Mexico]

This is only partially true. There is no scientifically proven vegan source of B12. All vegans need to eat Vit B12 fortified foods or take Vit B12 supplement.
Here is great article on vegan health website debunking myths of vegan sources of Vit B12 like seaweed, spirulina, etc. by certified nutritionist. It contains few studies done on raw vegans, extreme vegans and other crazy people who thought they are going to outsmart their physiology and mother nature.

https://veganhealth.org/articles/vitaminb12

There are foods that are fortified with B12 and supplements with B12 that are vegan. It's not simply a plant you can eat it has to be processed and added in but it is not from an animal product it is from a micro organisms that are vegan. These same micro organisms are the same that give you B12 in animal products as well, since those micro organisms are the source of B12. The reason many foods are fortified is because "nature" decided that we don't absorb much b12 after 50ish and yet we still need it, hence the supplementing or fortifying that we all need at that age, including life long meat eaters. Although that is not the only thing that needs fortifying or supplementing for people, vegans and animal product eaters.

 

[Ron Mexico]

https://www.foodispower.org/pollution-water-air-chemicals/

Here is a decent article about the pollution from livestock. I think it is fair to say it is one of the biggest environmental impacts we are currently facing. If people cut their meat eating in half it would solve a lot of the issues.

Here is another

https://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?newsID=20772

[FONT=&quot]Livestock are one of the most significant contributors to today’s most serious environmental problems,” senior UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) official Henning Steinfeld said. “Urgent action is required to remedy the situation.”[/FONT]

 

[Siro]

I'd never stop eating meat because I like it too much. But if there was a grown version like they're trying to create in the lab, that is as delicious and affordable as dead animals, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

 

[fishonjazz]

You guys know that Guiness stout uses fish bladders for its production? I had a friend vegan who was drinking Guiness during party ( I honestly can't believe anybody can like that piss) and almost threw up when I told him and he checked that it is indeed a fact lol.

Don't be a dick and ruin it for him. Let him have his beer.

It's bad enough he isn't getting to enjoy meat!

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah I understand that it is not in the beer and it is only used for production. Honestly I could care less as I tried Guiness only one time in my life and said never again. Can't believe that **** is so popular. The worst beer ever!

I hate guiness as well

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[fishonjazz]

I'd never stop eating meat because I like it too much. But if there was a grown version like they're trying to create in the lab, that is as delicious and affordable as dead animals, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

Yep

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