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Broncster said:
Or just assume Trump won't deliver on any of his promises and the backlash will go the other way. The grass is always greener and we are rarely satisfied with the current. I don't think calling anyone uneducated white male changed enough votes to be a factor. Getting people worked up about their way of life being threatened and feeling that they were losing power to other groups combined with the normal propoganda against the other side did the trick.
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By itself "uneducated white male" didn't do it. But there is absolutely an element of rebellion against PC culture.

But again, Trump won because Clinton failed on an epic level to make herself worth voting for. Both candidates under performed
 
str8line said:
Fantastic speech by Hillary. Very classy. She doesn't seem down at all and promoted healing.
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If she had sounded that way throughout the campaign I bet she would have won. Her screeching delivery (as she does in nearly every campaign speech) is unlistenable. I think her biggest supporters were probably cringing more often than not when she was speaking publicly. I don't think any of them were cringing at her concession speech delivery. She sounded presidential for once.
 
♪alt13 said:
Trump won because the left keeps using the phrase "uneducated white males". Being condescending and accusative toward the largest demographic group in the country is a really dumb thing to do if you want to win an election.
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Clinton tried to cater to those-with-relatively-less-formal-education-but-not-necessarily-uneducated-white-males by pretending to be against international trade agreements. Considering that much of their anger is directed at immigrants and their fear of losing "their" America, there is only so much you can do before you become a Trump.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
If she had sounded that way throughout the campaign I bet she would have won. Her screeching delivery (as she does in nearly every campaign speech) is unlistenable. I think her biggest supporters were probably cringing more often than not when she was speaking publicly. I don't think any of them were cringing at her concession speech delivery. She sounded presidential for once.
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No. Her supporters aren't concerned with the pitch of her voice.
 
Siro said:
No. Her supporters aren't concerned with the pitch of her voice.
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But hearing women speak assertively really gets under some people's skin. Not going to say who...
 
Siro said:
No. Her supporters aren't concerned with the pitch of her voice.
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Yes, but it's pretty obvious that she needed more supporters, right? And she might have found a whole bunch of them in the large population who cannot bear to listen to her fingernails on a chalkboard delivery.
 
One of the problems for me was, I could never really 'read' her. She seems to always have this impenetrable 'pokerface' and didn't seem very genuine. It was as if she's always hiding something. She is 'polite', yes, but never candid.
 
Gameface said:
But hearing women speak assertively really gets under some people's skin. Not going to say who...
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Do you find this to be assertive? My girlfriend is both assertive and extremely successful. She never sounds anything like this, thank God:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XEnlIQlyjk
 
Siro said:
Clinton tried to cater to those-with-relatively-less-formal-education-but-not-necessarily-uneducated-white-males by pretending to be against international trade agreements. Considering that much of their anger is directed at immigrants and their fear of losing "their" America, there is only so much you can do before you become a Trump.
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Trump performed poorly! Like really bad.

Clinton performed just as poorly.

Clinton didn't need to become Trump. She needed to give people a reason to vote for her. Lying about her stance on free trade was a dumb way to try and do that.
 
ONE LOVE said:
One of the problems for me was, I could never really 'read' her. She seems to always have this impenetrable 'pokerface' and didn't seem very genuine. It was as if she's always hiding something. She is 'polite', yes, but never candid.
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So basically Kevin O'Connor. I agree.
 
ONE LOVE said:
One of the problems for me was, I could never really 'read' her. She seems to always have this impenetrable 'pokerface' and didn't seem very genuine. It was as if she's always hiding something. She is 'polite', yes, but never candid.
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Didn't help that Bill also was a certified liar ... some people grouped 'The Clintons' together... so sorta guilty by association?
 
Broncster said:
It is the largest group and it's condescending to call them by what they are... It doesn't take away from the fact that they decided this election and will keep deciding unless the other side rallies against them or we improve the education level of this country. Equality of all races, sex and personal choices are important to many. People might get offended by people fighting for that, maybe there are better ways to go about it but it is worth fighting for. Even if there is back lash to that and we elect someone who doesn't support and even if the other side pretends it isn't an issue that fight people will keep pushing for human rights.
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You can't educate people calling them trash.
 
♪alt13 said:
Trump performed poorly! Like really bad.

Clinton performed just as poorly.

Clinton didn't need to become Trump. She needed to give people a reason to vote for her. Lying about her stance on free trade was a dumb way to try and do that.
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I thought she did; stability. But I was obviously wrong. :/
 
Well if the election was up to the under 30 crowd Clinton would have won by a landslide with over 500 electoral votes. Old people always get out and vote more though.

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♪alt13 said:
Trump won because the left keeps using the phrase "uneducated white males". Being condescending and accusative toward the largest demographic group in the country is a really dumb thing to do if you want to win an election.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpdt7omPoa0
 
Siro said:
I thought she did; stability. But I was obviously wrong. :/
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Yeah, I thought for sure that she was going to win. Early in the night I thought that CNN was obviously trying to make the election appear closer than it really was. It took me over an hour to realize that they weren't bull ****ting for ratings. Even then I still thought Clinton would pull it out late into the night. It was shocking but in hindsight having that much confidence in a Hilary Clinton ticket was more than premature it was downright stupid.
 
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