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Lmfao. You took a shot at him over something he had nothing to do with. Then he comes out against it and you will spin it anyway you can. Terrible. You are the Dutch of the "left".

But he didn't come out against it. I don't think you actually read his statement. Furthermore, have you been paying attention to his cabinet picks? Campaigning against lobbyists and corrupt capitalists and then Filling your cabinet with them isn't draining the swamp.

Any more weak *** arguments for me to shred?
 
But he didn't come out against it. I don't think you actually read his statement. Furthermore, have you been paying attention to his cabinet picks? Campaigning against lobbyists and corrupt capitalists and then Filling your cabinet with them isn't draining the swamp.

Any more weak *** arguments for me to shred?

Only weak because you MUST blame him for everything you don't like. You sound EXACTLY like one of those Obama haters.

Cheers, you're a political hack.

What was I ever thinking talking to you again?

Edit: That's better.
 
Nonsense. You need to study history.

The ACA was the GOP's health care reform until a black democrat proposed it. Just google Heritage individual mandate.

Heritage is not republicans.

Or look at the plans that Sen Hatch proposed in response to Hillarycare in 93.

OOrin Hatch is a liberal democrat an a carpetbagger.

Or what Romney did in Mass.

Mitt Romney is a RINO. Only republicans that supported him were Mormons. The rest blasted him for Romneycare. It was the REASON conservatives stayed home an let OBAMA win.




Furthermore, this notion that democrats refused to reach across the aisle is utterly dumbfounding.

Apparently your definition of reach across the isle is "we have to pass this so we can find out what is in it". Pelosi did not even read the bill! It is clear this was written by liberal corporate interests years in advance. Republicans were trying to stop corporate handout!



So republican media soured the public on the public option (which would've helped to keep costs down) and Justice Roberts declared that Medicaid expansion would be determined by individual states. Meaning, a state like Utah could have the option of refusing Medicaid expansion money and leave 100,000 Utahns too wealthy to qualify for regular Medicaid and too poor to purchase insurance even on the Obamacare market.

Lies.

Obamacare is pretty much free for people they can not afford. Even copays are only like 2 bucks or something.
 
Only weak because you MUST blame him for everything you don't like. You sound EXACTLY like one of those Obama haters.

Cheers, you're a political hack.

What was I ever thinking talking to you again?

Edit: That's better.

You call me the blind partisan yet you're the one speculating. Do you seriously not see the irony here?

Your post is weak because you're pulling crap out of your rear and declaring it as fact. Then you're getting all personal in your attacks rather than refute what was stated. The truth is, you didn't quite read Trump's statement but were all too eager to defend him. As both green and I have indicated, read his actual statement.

I get that you making this personal is an attempt to wave the white flag in this argument while refusing to actually admit it. So I'll show compassion and allow you to save face. I'm through with you unless you actually come back with some facts.
 
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Heritage is not republicans.



OOrin Hatch is a liberal democrat an a carpetbagger.



Mitt Romney is a RINO. Only republicans that supported him were Mormons. The rest blasted him for Romneycare. It was the REASON conservatives stayed home an let OBAMA win.






Apparently your definition of reach across the isle is "we have to pass this so we can find out what is in it". Pelosi did not even read the bill! It is clear this was written by liberal corporate interests years in advance. Republicans were trying to stop corporate handout!





Lies.

Obamacare is pretty much free for people they can not afford. Even copays are only like 2 bucks or something.

I wanted to quote this message to reemphasize how far to the right the right was shifted. Heritage isn't the unofficial think tank of the GOP, Orrin is now a liberal, and Romney is a RINO.

Let that marinade for a while.
 
I wanted to quote this message to reemphasize how far to the right the right was shifted. Heritage isn't the unofficial think tank of the GOP, Orrin is now a liberal, and Romney is a RINO.

Let that marinade for a while.

left vs right = Tyrany vs Liberty.

shifting further to the right is shifting more to LIBERTY! shrinking government.

and actually government grows, via debt, regulation, more taxes. so the center is always shifting and the left iwth it.

The right is pretty stationary!
 
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I wanted to quote this message to reemphasize how far to the right the right was shifted. Heritage isn't the unofficial think tank of the GOP, Orrin is now a liberal, and Romney is a RINO.

Let that marinade for a while.

The left does not care about you they care about appeasing you with fancy language an handouts. Best camouflage so they can please there corporate overlords.

Works donit?
 
The right doesnt care about you they care about themselves and money
 
The idea of left and right in politics was invented less than two hundred years ago. I think it's artificial and useless.

Government has generally been the guy with the soldiers and the hangers-on licking his boots and getting fat at the table of privilege. Access to influence equates fairly well with wealth. Having bread to throw to the masses maintains the privileged few with the soldiers... who double as "tax collectors" generally.

left and right actually refers to puppetry. The play is to entertain and misdirect the audience, the public, and to divide their sympathies or manipulate their prejudices. Left has the carrot, right has the stick. two hands, one abused class of humans, the truly misinformed, the true believers in either side of the show. Two hands, one main effect of government, one purpose. The accumuilation of power and wealth for the puppeteers/

people who get all hot or bothered about left and right are the abused/deceived and the object of the game. No control without reactions from the public, mostly directed amongst themselves. The puppeteers know it a show, and generally don't believe the ideological persuasions advanced from either side. Their eyes are on the payola being passed out to those who are helpful to the show.
 
The idea of left and right in politics was invented less than two hundred years ago. I think it's artificial and useless.

Government has generally been the guy with the soldiers and the hangers-on licking his boots and getting fat at the table of privilege. Access to influence equates fairly well with wealth. Having bread to throw to the masses maintains the privileged few with the soldiers... who double as "tax collectors" generally.

left and right actually refers to puppetry. The play is to entertain and misdirect the audience, the public, and to divide their sympathies or manipulate their prejudices. Left has the carrot, right has the stick. two hands, one abused class of humans, the truly misinformed, the true believers in either side of the show. Two hands, one main effect of government, one purpose. The accumuilation of power and wealth for the puppeteers/

people who get all hot or bothered about left and right are the abused/deceived and the object of the game. No control without reactions from the public, mostly directed amongst themselves. The puppeteers know it a show, and generally don't believe the ideological persuasions advanced from either side. Their eyes are on the payola being passed out to those who are helpful to the show.



Right = liberty?

Hahahahaha



ok there is only tyrany and lioberty.

if we look at what the left stands for.
healhtcare: taking away your liberty and taxing yo9u more. no choice in healthcare
no GUNS: taking away your right to self defend.
no freedom of association aka BAKE THAT DAMM CAKE: taking away another right.
Jim crow: forcing you to segregate you business

every single policy of the left increases regulation government and laws.
that is definition of tyranny!


the right's policy stand for more liberty!
 
ok there is only tyrany and lioberty.

if we look at what the left stands for.
healhtcare: taking away your liberty and taxing yo9u more. no choice in healthcare
no GUNS: taking away your right to self defend.
no freedom of association aka BAKE THAT DAMM CAKE: taking away another right.
Jim crow: forcing you to segregate you business

every single policy of the left increases regulation government and laws.
that is definition of tyranny!


the right's policy stand for more liberty!
Left also wants to legalize it and is pro choice.=liberty
 
Left also wants to legalize it and is pro choice.=liberty

pro choice is about taking A liVe AND liberty away from a person.

got me on the pot though! but watcxh regulation come up concerning pot.

wil be a bitch to get into it. have you tried opening a cigarette plant. or a tabaco farm. impossible!!!
that is where marijuana is heading
 
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ok there is only tyrany and lioberty.

if we look at what the left stands for.
healhtcare: taking away your liberty and taxing yo9u more. no choice in healthcare
no GUNS: taking away your right to self defend.
no freedom of association aka BAKE THAT DAMM CAKE: taking away another right.
Jim crow: forcing you to segregate you business

every single policy of the left increases regulation government and laws.
that is definition of tyranny!


the right's policy stand for more liberty!

"left" might be seen as for the "little people" democracy while "right" is the "big people" money interests. In my lifetime, I've seen the Democratic Party hijacked and transformed stepwise from a pretty good human rights advocacy towards a heavy-handed thuggery like Harry Reid/Obama/Pelosi and the Clintons who perswonally enrich themselves while selling a wagonload of dung to the little people.

When I was young, say the Eisenhower years, the Republicans were two sorts, regular folk with Constitutions in their ideals for limited government and community wheels with business interests to promote, and hawks/military ordnance salesmen who wanted to go fight the communists.

Today that has polarized, the conservatives have grown from a small disenfranchised mix to a determined larger part of the R's who realize their own freedom is on the line, and their own pockets are being picked and the guns turned against them. A lot of RINOs don't givadam just want their guv jobs and play the stupid rubes like the dems do.

real "dems" of the old line would never accept the Clintons or Pelosis. Would fight for human rights.

We're a whole lot crazy with ideology today. Nobody thinks it through.
 
I think post-birth abortions should be legal too. There are many people that create an undue burden to society...

of course you mean you think you should decide who gets to live, not me. I suspect you of sarcasm. ha ha.
 
Hilarious!

Now tax payers are going to be on the hook for Dump's wall. Meanwhile, former Mexican president Fox is tweeting out how Mexico will never reimburse the USA.

Is there anyone on earth who actually believes that Mexico will ever reimburse us a single penny for this wall?
 
Hilarious!

Now tax payers are going to be on the hook for Dump's wall. Meanwhile, former Mexican president Fox is tweeting out how Mexico will never reimburse the USA.

Is there anyone on earth who actually believes that Mexico will ever reimburse us a single penny for this wall?

I'm afraid you're right here.

What we gonna do? Throw illegals in some hellhole latrine-type dungeon and hold them ransom until their rich Mex relatives fork over a hundred grand $ not Peso's. This is a new form of assymetric warfare. I mean that to become a new, popular lingo word.... assymetric..... makes my point.

Mexico has very inhumane treatment in store for those who come in there from their southern border, unless there is grease for the official palms.

About the only way we could make them pay is build the wall oh 500 miles further south.
 
"left" might be seen as for the "little people" democracy while "right" is the "big people" money interests. In my lifetime, I've seen the Democratic Party hijacked and transformed stepwise from a pretty good human rights advocacy towards a heavy-handed thuggery like Harry Reid/Obama/Pelosi and the Clintons who perswonally enrich themselves while selling a wagonload of dung to the little people.

When I was young, say the Eisenhower years, the Republicans were two sorts, regular folk with Constitutions in their ideals for limited government and community wheels with business interests to promote, and hawks/military ordnance salesmen who wanted to go fight the communists.

Today that has polarized, the conservatives have grown from a small disenfranchised mix to a determined larger part of the R's who realize their own freedom is on the line, and their own pockets are being picked and the guns turned against them. A lot of RINOs don't givadam just want their guv jobs and play the stupid rubes like the dems do.

real "dems" of the old line would never accept the Clintons or Pelosis. Would fight for human rights.

We're a whole lot crazy with ideology today. Nobody thinks it through.

naah dnc always been ****ty. from fighting to kee[ slabvery legal, to setting up kkk, to jim crow laws. the democratic party has ALWAYS been ****TY. the infamous shift also did not happen. where the republican party switch and got all the racist
 
Hilarious!

Now tax payers are going to be on the hook for Dump's wall. Meanwhile, former Mexican president Fox is tweeting out how Mexico will never reimburse the USA.

Is there anyone on earth who actually believes that Mexico will ever reimburse us a single penny for this wall?

keep believing the lame stream MEDIA!
 
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