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What happened to game face?

I negged him for being a dick. He's sensitive and he's used to having his *** kissed and being treated like a special kind of person. He'll get over it.

He and anyone else should feel absolutely free to neg me on the regular occasion when I'm being a dick.
 
I negged him for being a dick. He's sensitive and he's used to having his *** kissed and being treated like a special kind of person. He'll get over it.

He and anyone else should feel absolutely free to neg me on the regular occasion when I'm being a dick.

lulz.. nah, don't think I'll ever get over it.
And actually I wasn't being a dick.. I was poking fun at OL's other thread. Just the Tip got it. You didn't. No biggie.
 
lulz.. nah, don't think I'll ever get over it.
And actually I wasn't being a dick.. I was poking fun at OL's other thread. Just the Tip got it. You didn't. No biggie.

I got it.

I thought carrying over your heartfelt advice to this thread was kind of douchy.

I've been the beneficiary of your holier than thou advice a few times. It's pretty much why you're not one of my favorite posters.

You're awesome though! I just don't consider people who look down on me and do the big brother thing to me friends. It's weird. I like being friends with people who respect me as their equal. I know I'm not every person's equal. There are people who are better than me. But if they insist on making a point of pointing it out I don't consider them friends.

Like I've said before. I like you fine. But we're not friends. I'm over it. I hope you can get over it, too.
 
I got it.

I thought carrying over your heartfelt advice to this thread was kind of douchy.

I've been the beneficiary of your holier than thou advice a few times. It's pretty much why you're not one of my favorite posters.

You're awesome though! I just don't consider people who look down on me and do the big brother thing to me friends. It's weird. I like being friends with people who respect me as their equal. I know I'm not every person's equal. There are people who are better than me. But if they insist on making a point of pointing it out I don't consider them friends.

Like I've said before. I like you fine. But we're not friends. I'm over it. I hope you can get over it, too.

Wow.
Take care.
 
I got it.

I thought carrying over your heartfelt advice to this thread was kind of douchy.

I've been the beneficiary of your holier than thou advice a few times. It's pretty much why you're not one of my favorite posters.

You're awesome though! I just don't consider people who look down on me and do the big brother thing to me friends. It's weird. I like being friends with people who respect me as their equal. I know I'm not every person's equal. There are people who are better than me. But if they insist on making a point of pointing it out I don't consider them friends.

Like I've said before. I like you fine. But we're not friends. I'm over it. I hope you can get over it, too.

Lmao.
 
I got it.

I thought carrying over your heartfelt advice to this thread was kind of douchy.

I've been the beneficiary of your holier than thou advice a few times. It's pretty much why you're not one of my favorite posters.

You're awesome though! I just don't consider people who look down on me and do the big brother thing to me friends. It's weird. I like being friends with people who respect me as their equal. I know I'm not every person's equal. There are people who are better than me. But if they insist on making a point of pointing it out I don't consider them friends.

Like I've said before. I like you fine. But we're not friends. I'm over it. I hope you can get over it, too.

To clarify something. I clicked "like" on this post, not for the critique of Pkm, because I don't really know him as well as GF does, but because of the statement in the middle about friends being on equal footing. It's something I've always tried to teach my kids. How we treat each other matters. And no matter how far we get in life, there are very few things that can really make one person truly better than another. And none of those things have anything to do with how much treasure or how many toys we amass.
 
can someone pls resign from jazzfanz so this thread really lights on fire? It could go from suck to awesome. [MENTION=40]Siro[/MENTION], you got any stinging rebukes to bring to this discussion? Let's get it going.
 
To clarify something. I clicked "like" on this post, not for the critique of Pkm, because I don't really know him as well as GF does, but because of the statement in the middle about friends being on equal footing. It's something I've always tried to teach my kids. How we treat each other matters. And no matter how far we get in life, there are very few things that can really make one person truly better than another. And none of those things have anything to do with how much treasure or how many toys we amass.

I hear you. It's all just like how we get the president we deserve. Some dudes watch Friends and jerk to pron so we get this guy who's totally inflammatory with respect to the law, etc. Friends are complicated things.
 
No one here knows me as well as Trout and UGLI..
and to lesser extent Gyp.

I doubt any of these guys would say I am some kind of holier than thou. It seems laughable to me.
But other's perceptions are part of our realities.

I mean this sincerely, if I come off as "better" kick me in the nuts (be sure I'm not joking which I believe is allowed here) before swinging the foot back, please.

And [MENTION=249]NAOS[/MENTION] .. stfu you douche.
 
I got it.

I thought carrying over your heartfelt advice to this thread was kind of douchy.

I've been the beneficiary of your holier than thou advice a few times. It's pretty much why you're not one of my favorite posters.

You're awesome though! I just don't consider people who look down on me and do the big brother thing to me friends. It's weird. I like being friends with people who respect me as their equal. I know I'm not every person's equal. There are people who are better than me. But if they insist on making a point of pointing it out I don't consider them friends.

Like I've said before. I like you fine. But we're not friends. I'm over it. I hope you can get over it, too.

Gameface complaining about 'holier than thou' posting while giving the best example of how it's done is pretty typical Jazzfanz.
 
I didn't view any of what PKM said as him looking down on anybody. Get a grip and stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

Not trying to engage (quite the opposite), but I'd be surprised if anyone could quote a single thing whereby I'm giving advice as some kind of elitist.

I have never, once, looked down on GF, ever. Never felt sorry for.. honestly no idea where that came from and no clue why I would think that. Guy has poker tourneys, brews his beer, and loves to cook.. doesn't get much better.

Does seem more of a self-perception than one of my own.
 
I've said what I have to say on this and I'm not in it for the drama. (edit -- apparently I hadn't said all I had to say haha)

I don't "know" PKM. I've interacted with him on Jazzfanz and met him once in a setting where I was busy and there were a lot of other people around. I have nothing but positive feelings about that interaction.

I get that my response can easily be dismissed as insecurity or whatever else. Based on this thread that's probably how I would read it if I wasn't me.

But this idea that PKM has spoken to me with the respect that one speaks to an equal with. Uhm, no.

In particular, I was unemployed several years ago and my wife's car needed about $5000 in repairs. I was expressing, in a thread in the UGLI forum, how difficult the situation was and my limited options and asking for advice. Not advice from anyone in particular, just wondering if anyone there knew of a way to navigate the auto warranty process, or if there was anything else I could do.

PKM chimes in telling everyone how he knows so-and-so who is one of the biggest so-and-sos dealing with the brand of car in question and then turns it to me and basically chastises me for not seeking him out because it would have been just so ****ing easy for him to pick up the phone and snap his fingers and a problem like mine would be solved.

He follows that up with a lecture on my negative outlook and that if I'm acting like a looser then there's no reason to help me anyway because I'm just going to continue to be a loser.

I post a response in the thread humbly asking that if it isn't any trouble if he could contact his friend. I follow that with a PM explaining my situation in greater detail.

He tells me that he'll see what he can do.

Keep in mind at this point I'm having daily contact with the national warranty department for this car manufacturer going back and fourth on weather this will be covered or not.

I tell my wife that there's this guy, oh you remember him, he came to our house with his wife for that one poker tournament, and he knows so-and-so who does whatever and he might be able to persuade the warranty dept to cover the vehicle and we won't have to figure out how to come up with thousands of dollars we didn't have.

I wait several days.

I send another PM asking if he had had an opportunity to call his buddy, you guys know, the guy he proclaimed in public he was very good friends with who could easily fix issues like this and that PKM is a winner and doesn't have to get down about stuff like this because he thinks like a winner.

His response was that he couldn't really remember what it was I was dealing with, please remind him of the details.

I explain the situation again...

That's it. Nothing else was said about that again. I was able to negotiate for the warranty to cover half the expense as a good will gesture and I had to borrow the other half of the money from my sister.

Life went on. I also had a fundamentally different opinion of the guy who proclaimed loudly how easy problems like this were to fix when you're not a loser. I bet a lot of people who read that thread assumed PKM made a phone call and helped me out.

There's also the mutiple times people have brought up this stupid idea that PKM offered to start a brewery with me. No such actual offer was ever made. Suggestions, in public, that he could do such a thing, might be inclined to do such a thing, were made. I've never seriously pursued the notion of starting a brewery. None of these suggestions came from me. And I never once considered PKM's public statements to be sincere or meaningful.

At some point much later someone brought that up and PKM said something to the effect that he'd back such a thing so long as I never once doubted that I was the best brewer in the world and my beer was the greatest beer. But if for one second I doubted myself he'd be out. Uhh-huh. Eyerolls ensued from this side of my monitor. If I ever wanted to start a brewery PKM would not make my top-100 list of people I would want to work with in that process.

Besides that, if you read any of his statements, he was never offering to go into business with me. I'm pretty sure, at best, he was offering to give me a loan. As he has stated many times that he makes most of his money nowadays from loaning people start-up money. So, you know, despite the public statements that made things seem one way, there was never a sincere offer on the table. It was all show.

So yeah, the guy who has told me on multiple occasions that I'm a loser and I think like a loser and I doubt myself like a looser says in this thread that I'm awesome and he's never once looked down on me?

PKM is pretty good at PR. I'll give him that.
 
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