Following potential 2017 draftees...

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It's a shame one of UCLA and UK has to lose, but that Ball v Fox matchup is going to be fun.

Hopefully Monk can break out of his slump and really have a huge game.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Is Sindarius Thornwell a better prospect than Josh Hart?

 

[Jazzsneaker From China]

how about Bacon


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[Game6Conley]

1 - BOS - Markelle Fultz 6'3½" PG/SG - Washington - Fr.
2 - LAL - Jayson Tatum 6'8" SF/SG - Duke - Fr.
3 - PHX - Lonzo Ball 6'5" PG - UCLA - Fr.
4 - ORL - Josh Jackson 6'7" SG/SF - Kansas - Fr.
5 - PHI - De'Aaron Fox 6'3½" PG - Kentucky - Fr.
6 - SAC - Jonathan Isaac 6'11" SF/PF - Florida St. - Fr.
7 - NYK - Lauri Markkanen 7' PF/SF - Arizona - Fr.
8 - MIN - Frank Ntilikina 6'5" CG - Strasbourg IG - International '98
9 - SAC - Robert Williams - 6'10" PF/C - Texas A&M - Fr.
10 - CHA - Dennis Smith 6'1" PG - NC State - Fr.
11 - DAL - Zach Collins 6'11½" PF/C - Gonzaga - Fr.
12 - POR - Miles Bridges 6'7" SF - Michigan St. - Fr.
13 - CHI - Malik Monk 6'3½" SG/PG - Kentucky - Fr.
14 - MIA - Jarrett Allen 6'11" PF/C - Texas - Fr.
15 - DEN - Justin Patton 7' C/PF - Creighton - Fr.
16 - DET - Isaiah Hartenstein 7' PF/C - Žalgiris Kaunas - International '98
17 - MIL - Terrance Ferguson 6'7" SG - Adelaide 36ers - International '98
18 - IND - Harry Giles 6'10" PF - Duke - Fr.
19 - ATL - OG Anunoby 6'8" SF - Indiana - So.
20 - POR - Rodions Kurucs 6'9" SF - FC Barcelona - International '98
21 - OKC - Luke Kennard 6'5" SG - Duke - So.
22 - TOR - Bruce Brown 6'3" CG - Miami - Fr.
23 - ORL - Bam Adebayo 6'10" C - UK - Fr.
24 - BKN - T.J. Leaf 6'9½" SF/PF - UCLA - Fr.Ike Anigbogu 6'10" C - UCLA - Fr.
25 - UTA - D.J. Wilson 6'10" PF/SF - Michigan - Jr.
26 - BKN - Ivan Rabb 6'10" PF - California - So.
27 - POR - Chemizie Metu 6'10" PF - USC - So.
28 - LAL - Tyler Lydon 6'9" SF/PF - Syracuse - So.
29 - SAS - Donovan Mitchell 6'2" PG/SG - Louisville - So.
30 - UTA - De'Anthony Melton 6'4" PG/SG - USC - Fr.


2nd rd

31 - ATL - John Collins 6'10" PF - Wake Forest - So.
32 - ORL - Frank Jackson 6'3" PG/SG - Duke - Fr.
33 - PHX - Justin Jackson 6'8" SG/SF - UNC - Jr.
34 - ORL - Andrew Jones 6'5" CG - Texas - Fr.Justin Jackson 6'8" SF/PF - Maryland - Fr.
35 - SAC - Moritz Wagner - 6'11" PF - Michigan - So. Deng Adel 6'7" SF - Louisville - So.
36 - CHI - Jonathan Motley 6'9" PF - Baylor - Jr.
37 - PHI - Jonathan Jeanne 7'3" PF - Le Mans - International '97
38 - BOS - Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk 6'8" SG - Kansas - So.Arnoldas Kulboka 6'9" SF/SG - Baunach - International '98
39 - NO - Shake Milton 6'5" - PG/SG - SMU - So.
40 - PHI - Kevin Huerter 6'7" SG - Maryland - Fr.
41 - CHA - Grayson Allen 6'5" CG - Duke - Jr.
42 - HOU - P.J. Dozier 6'6" SG/PG - South Carolina - So.Kostja Mushidi 6'6" CG - Mega Leks - International '98
43 - NYK - Semi Ojeleye 6'7" SF/PF - SMU - Jr.Isaac Haas 7'3" C - Purdue - Jr.
44 - HOU - Anžejs Pasečņiks 7'2" C - Gran Canaria - International '95
45 - UTA - Caleb Swanigan 6'9" PF/C - Purdue - So. Borisa Simanic - Red Star - International '98
46 - PHI - Allonzo Trier 6'4" SG - Arizona - So.
47 - MIL - Monte Morris - 6'2" PG - Iowa St. - Sr.
48 - IND - Josh Hart 6'5" SG - Villanova - Sr.Tyus Battle 6'7" SG/SF - Syracuse - Fr.
49 - PHI - Cameron Oliver - 6'8" PF - Nevada - So.
50 - DEN - Jonah Bolden 6'10" PF - FMP Belgrade - International '96
51 - DEN - Thomas Bryant 6'11" PF/C - Indiana - So.
52 - PHX - Aaron Holiday 6'1" PG - UCLA - So.
53 - BOS - Omer Yurtseven 6'11" PF/C - NC State - Fr.
54 - WAS - Dillon Brooks 6'6" SF/SG - Oregon - Jr.
55 - UTA - Alpha Kaba 6'10" PF/C - Mega Vizura - International '96
56 - BKN - Sindarius Thornwell 6'5" SG - South Carolina - Sr.
57 - BOS - Derrick White 6'5" PG/SG - Colorado - Sr.
58 - NYK - Dwayne Bacon - 6'6½" SG/SF - FSU - So.Tadas Sedekeriskis 6'8" SF/PF - Vittorio - International '98
59 - SAS - Marcus Marshall 6'3" PG/SG - Nevada - Sr.
60 - ATL - Elijah Stewart 6'5" SG/SF - USC - Jr.Kobi Simmons 6'4" CG - Arizona - Fr.

Honorable mention to Alec Peters who's only off the list due to injury.

There's 10 extra names on this one cuz I really don't wanna take the time to cut it down

no team needs included.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Is Sindarius Thornwell a better prospect than Josh Hart?

There's an argument to be made

 

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2DHVAnrNlk

 

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHyg0FPUz8

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AHyg0FPUz8

That shot is weird with that foot flying out and his for is spastic. It is like he thinks he gets fouled on every shot

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would think that all of these three are off the board by the time the Houston pick rolls around but it's not improbable that they drop for whatever idiosyncratic reason someone falls from their expected perch in every draft (see Zubac, Ivica). Should they be gone, I would still hew toward a wing preference, in this case Sindarius Thornwell. Thornwell is currently breaking Sports-Reference's box plus/minus metric since he quite literally stuffs the box score in every category in spectacular fashion, but even if we moved beyond that, he looks like a contributor in every respect. High steal and block rates are often correlated with good defensive ability in the pros and Thornwell accomplishes the double-whammy for a perimeter player in having both awesome steal (3.7) and block (3.2) rates. Lest this seem like a senior taking advantage of his younger competition, Thornwell has maintained good marks in these metrics for every year of his career.

What has changed for Thornwell is that he's managed to finally become a solid shooter in his senior season, hitting 39.1 percent of his threes (on 4.4 attempts per game) after a previous lack of success here in his career. Combined with always decent distributing chops and what has grown into truly outrageous rebounding production for a guard (12.2 TRB%), Thornwell is a contributor across the board and looks like a solid selection as a playmaking, sweet shooting, and defense contributing wing. The biggest knock against him is how much of this senior production can really be translated to the NBA, especially when a fair chunk of it is incongruent with the rest of his career, but he seems to check every box we're looking for.

I think if you were a Josh Hart fan you probably want to trade that stock for Sindarius Thornwell stock.

 

[Miggs]

I think if you were a Josh Hart fan you probably want to trade that stock for Sindarius Thornwell stock.

Thanks for the post. Very interesting. I tried looking up his measurements and can only find his 2014 wingspan at 6'9". In comparison, Burks' is 6'10.5". Hood 6'8.5". Hayward, 6'7.8".

 

[Elizah Huge]

1 - BOS - Markelle Fultz 6'3½" PG/SG - Washington - Fr.
2 - LAL - Jayson Tatum 6'8" SF/SG - Duke - Fr.
3 - PHX - Lonzo Ball 6'5" PG - UCLA - Fr.
4 - ORL - Josh Jackson 6'7" SG/SF - Kansas - Fr.
5 - PHI - De'Aaron Fox 6'3½" PG - Kentucky - Fr.
6 - SAC - Jonathan Isaac 6'11" SF/PF - Florida St. - Fr.
7 - NYK - Lauri Markkanen 7' PF/SF - Arizona - Fr.
8 - MIN - Frank Ntilikina 6'5" CG - Strasbourg IG - International '98
9 - SAC - Robert Williams - 6'10" PF/C - Texas A&M - Fr.
10 - CHA - Dennis Smith 6'1" PG - NC State - Fr.
11 - DAL - Zach Collins 6'11½" PF/C - Gonzaga - Fr.
12 - POR - Miles Bridges 6'7" SF - Michigan St. - Fr.
13 - CHI - Malik Monk 6'3½" SG/PG - Kentucky - Fr.
14 - MIA - Jarrett Allen 6'11" PF/C - Texas - Fr.
15 - DEN - Justin Patton 7' C/PF - Creighton - Fr.
16 - DET - Isaiah Hartenstein 7' PF/C - Žalgiris Kaunas - International '98
17 - MIL - Terrance Ferguson 6'7" SG - Adelaide 36ers - International '98
18 - IND - Harry Giles 6'10" PF - Duke - Fr.
19 - ATL - OG Anunoby 6'8" SF - Indiana - So.
20 - POR - Rodions Kurucs 6'9" SF - FC Barcelona - International '98
21 - OKC - Luke Kennard 6'5" SG - Duke - So.
22 - TOR - Bruce Brown 6'3" CG - Miami - Fr.
23 - ORL - Bam Adebayo 6'10" C - UK - Fr.
24 - BKN - T.J. Leaf 6'9½" SF/PF - UCLA - Fr.Ike Anigbogu 6'10" C - UCLA - Fr.
25 - UTA - D.J. Wilson 6'10" PF/SF - Michigan - Jr.
26 - BKN - Ivan Rabb 6'10" PF - California - So.
27 - POR - Chemizie Metu 6'10" PF - USC - So.
28 - LAL - Tyler Lydon 6'9" SF/PF - Syracuse - So.
29 - SAS - Donovan Mitchell 6'2" PG/SG - Louisville - So.
30 - UTA - De'Anthony Melton 6'4" PG/SG - USC - Fr.


2nd rd

31 - ATL - John Collins 6'10" PF - Wake Forest - So.
32 - ORL - Frank Jackson 6'3" PG/SG - Duke - Fr.
33 - PHX - Justin Jackson 6'8" SG/SF - UNC - Jr.
34 - ORL - Andrew Jones 6'5" CG - Texas - Fr.Justin Jackson 6'8" SF/PF - Maryland - Fr.
35 - SAC - Moritz Wagner - 6'11" PF - Michigan - So. Deng Adel 6'7" SF - Louisville - So.
36 - CHI - Jonathan Motley 6'9" PF - Baylor - Jr.
37 - PHI - Jonathan Jeanne 7'3" PF - Le Mans - International '97
38 - BOS - Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk 6'8" SG - Kansas - So.Arnoldas Kulboka 6'9" SF/SG - Baunach - International '98
39 - NO - Shake Milton 6'5" - PG/SG - SMU - So.
40 - PHI - Kevin Huerter 6'7" SG - Maryland - Fr.
41 - CHA - Grayson Allen 6'5" CG - Duke - Jr.
42 - HOU - P.J. Dozier 6'6" SG/PG - South Carolina - So.Kostja Mushidi 6'6" CG - Mega Leks - International '98
43 - NYK - Semi Ojeleye 6'7" SF/PF - SMU - Jr.Isaac Haas 7'3" C - Purdue - Jr.
44 - HOU - Anžejs Pasečņiks 7'2" C - Gran Canaria - International '95
45 - UTA - Caleb Swanigan 6'9" PF/C - Purdue - So. Borisa Simanic - Red Star - International '98
46 - PHI - Allonzo Trier 6'4" SG - Arizona - So.
47 - MIL - Monte Morris - 6'2" PG - Iowa St. - Sr.
48 - IND - Josh Hart 6'5" SG - Villanova - Sr.Tyus Battle 6'7" SG/SF - Syracuse - Fr.
49 - PHI - Cameron Oliver - 6'8" PF - Nevada - So.
50 - DEN - Jonah Bolden 6'10" PF - FMP Belgrade - International '96
51 - DEN - Thomas Bryant 6'11" PF/C - Indiana - So.
52 - PHX - Aaron Holiday 6'1" PG - UCLA - So.
53 - BOS - Omer Yurtseven 6'11" PF/C - NC State - Fr.
54 - WAS - Dillon Brooks 6'6" SF/SG - Oregon - Jr.
55 - UTA - Alpha Kaba 6'10" PF/C - Mega Vizura - International '96
56 - BKN - Sindarius Thornwell 6'5" SG - South Carolina - Sr.
57 - BOS - Derrick White 6'5" PG/SG - Colorado - Sr.
58 - NYK - Dwayne Bacon - 6'6½" SG/SF - FSU - So.Tadas Sedekeriskis 6'8" SF/PF - Vittorio - International '98
59 - SAS - Marcus Marshall 6'3" PG/SG - Nevada - Sr.
60 - ATL - Elijah Stewart 6'5" SG/SF - USC - Jr.Kobi Simmons 6'4" CG - Arizona - Fr.

Honorable mention to Alec Peters who's only off the list due to injury.

There's 10 extra names on this one cuz I really don't wanna take the time to cut it down

no team needs included.

Deng Adel isn't in the top-25? What made you change your mind since yesterday?


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[Miggs]

I'm confused. Are we not getting OKC's 1st round pick this coming draft?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm confused. Are we not getting OKC's 1st round pick this coming draft?

2018 first round draft pick from Oklahoma City
Oklahoma City's 1st round pick to Utah protected for selections 1-14 in 2018, 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020; if Oklahoma City has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Utah by 2020, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2020 2nd round pick and 2021 2nd round pick to Utah [Detroit-Oklahoma City-Utah, 2/19/2015]

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[Miggs]

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Oh, I could've sworn it was for 2017. Thanks.

 

[Game6Conley]

Deng Adel isn't in the top-25? What made you change your mind since yesterday?


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There's effectively about 44 players inside teh "fringe first round" (and higher) in this mock.. (the Cutoff being Kevin Huerter at #40 and Grayson Allen being the first of the 'priority 2nd rd picks')

so there's just a massive overflow of talent until names start dropping out and the 1st rd gets pushed back.. The tiers don't always lineup with the 60 picks perfectly.. at this point its that times 100x given the new rules.. Situations very fluid..

 

[Elizah Huge]

There's effectively about 44 players inside teh "fringe first round" (and higher) in this mock..

so there's just a massive overflow of talent until names start dropping out and the 1st rd gets pushed back..

Way to avoid the question. You literally said yesterday that Deng Adel would be in your top-25 and he comes in at 35b.

 

[Game6Conley]

Way to avoid the question. You literally said yesterday that Deng Adel would be in your top-25 and he comes in at 35b.

You ask ****ty questions. Revealing questions about your competency. You're the type of idiot who tries to squeeze blood from a stone and just wont let it go.. If you had the sense to ask decent questions, I'd give ya great answers. Your aim is to be combative though, probably because you got picked on in school, didn't win the genetic lottery, and now settled that you're going to lash out by hassling people who root for the same sports teams as you...

You're probably not as stupid as you appear on this forum, it's not really a question of stupidity. In general I don't think people are as stupid as they seem. I think they're distracted and bamboozled, and thats your problem obviously.

You've already admitted your a slave to basic stats and you're way too busy trying to qualify yourself over and over and over to take the time and self-reflect that your methods are unsound and standards unrealistic.

You come to this thread to post stupid **** and repeat yourself. Your probably one of these people that turns most conversations into "heres my personal opinion" your opinion doesn't matter bruh.

I could answer 10,000 of your queries and you still wouldn't get it.

a wise man once said you should judge people on their questions not their answers..

The USC players crashed the party, as did D.J. Wilson. At this point putting together these mocks is a juggling act.. there was still games on and things constantly change, U seek finality on a subject thats all about adaption so you will constantly find yourself disappointed and outraged..

I threw Frank Jackson into the mock. There's several players that get pushed down to the 2nd. I don't have Adel over the Justin Jackson's and the Justin Jackson's both got pushed down to the 2nd rd.

 

[Elizah Huge]

You ask ****ty questions. Revealing questions about your competency. You're the type of idiot who tries to squeeze blood from a stone and just wont let it go.. If you had the sense to ask decent questions, I'd give ya great answers. Your aim is to be combative though, probably because you got picked on in school, didn't win the genetic lottery, and now settled that you're going to lash out by hassling people who root for the same sports teams as you...

You're probably not as stupid as you appear on this forum, it's not really a question of stupidity. In general I don't think people are as stupid as they seem. I think they're distracted and bamboozled, and thats your problem obviously.

You've already admitted your a slave to basic stats and you're way too busy trying to qualify yourself over and over and over to take the time and self-reflect that your methods are unsound and standards unrealistic.

You come to this thread to post stupid **** and repeat yourself. Your probably one of these people that turns most conversations into "heres my personal opinion" your opinion doesn't matter bruh.

I could answer 10,000 of your queries and you still wouldn't get it.

a wise man once said you should judge people on their questions not their answers..

The USC players crashed the party, as did D.J. Wilson. At this point putting together these mocks is a juggling act.. there was still games on and things constantly change, U seek finality on a subject thats all about adaption so you will constantly find yourself disappointed and outraged..

I threw Frank Jackson into the mock. There's several players that get pushed down to the 2nd. I don't have Adel over the Justin Jackson's and the Justin Jackson's both got pushed down to the 2nd rd.

I don't understand why you're getting so mad. I actually did hit the genetic lottery. I was a basketball star in high school and I'm living life without a care in the world. I asked a simple question as to why you dropped him 10 spots when you were adamant about it yesterday. All you had to say is you realized he wasn't a first rounder. That's it.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

I don't understand why you're getting so mad. I actually did hit the genetic lottery. I was a basketball star in high school and I'm living life without a care in the world. I asked a simple question as to why you dropped him 10 spots when you were adamant about it yesterday. All you had to say is you realized he wasn't a first rounder. That's it.


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Oh man, we got a HS star on our hands. How big was your HS? Like 200 people?

 

[Miggs]

I don't understand why you're getting so mad. I actually did hit the genetic lottery. I was a basketball star in high school and I'm living life without a care in the world. I asked a simple question as to why you dropped him 10 spots when you were adamant about it yesterday. All you had to say is you realized he wasn't a first rounder. That's it.


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Too big yo.