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Utah Jazz: Is Rudy Gobert the Next Dwight Howard?

People forget how overrated Dwight was in his prime.

Leading a team to the finals over LeBron is pretty darn special. I think he was properly rated. Just not sustainable obviously, due to injury and maturity levels. Hopefully Rudy is different on that front, because he will likely never be as good of a player as Dwight was for a couple years.
 
Is it all because he smiles too much?

I can't tell if you're being serious or not. The flip flopping in Orlando about the contracts, the low Angeles situation, the wanting to be known as a post player despite not being a great post player, the consumption of like 2 dozen donuts a day and multiple pounds of candy...

The guy had the tools to be a multiple time champion. Instead he is a borderline hall of famer. He's great, but he could have been transcendent.
 
I can't tell if you're being serious or not. The flip flopping in Orlando about the contracts, the low Angeles situation, the wanting to be known as a post player despite not being a great post player, the consumption of like 2 dozen donuts a day and multiple pounds of candy...

The guy had the tools to be a multiple time champion. Instead he is a borderline hall of famer. He's great, but he could have been transcendent.

Why you talking **** on candy and donuts boi?
 
Dwight did well that year to get Orlando to the NBA Finals, yes it was a perfect storm that got him there (Hedo & Lewis at their prime were very good too), but still it was no mean feat.


The problem is he hasn't done much else since, added to that the fact that he quits on Orlando and more or less wanted to be traded, and **** his pants with the Lakers and the HOU, it's ending pretty badly for him. It showed that he had no fight in him, which is totally opposite to who Rudy is as a player.
 
Why is Dwight a douche?

- His lack of mental toughness.
- No fire.
- See the media drama of his entire Orlando tenure. M
- External locus of control.
- He doesn't have "it."
- You can work with many people who don't have "it" (in fact most don't). His problem isn't so much that he doesn't have it, but that he's anti "it."
 
- His lack of mental toughness.
- No fire.
- See the media drama of his entire Orlando tenure. M
- External locus of control.
- He doesn't have "it."
- You can work with many people who don't have "it" (in fact most don't). His problem isn't so much that he doesn't have it, but that he's anti "it."

IDK, I just tend to think that people think to pile on players like him because they arent the prototype of competitiveness, not outwardly expressive and pounding their chest.

And again, all those things you listed (besides the melodrama) are not douche characteristics.
 
IDK, I just tend to think that people think to pile on players like him because they arent the prototype of competitiveness, not outwardly expressive and pounding their chest.

And again, all those things you listed (besides the melodrama) are not douche characteristics.

It's not just lack of fire. The guy's a complete bum on offense. With those physical atttributes, he should have easily been scoring 25 a game every year. And yet he often only hovered around 19 because he never improved his game one iota.
 
IDK, I just tend to think that people think to pile on players like him because they arent the prototype of competitiveness, not outwardly expressive and pounding their chest.

And again, all those things you listed (besides the melodrama) are not douche characteristics.

My critiques of him have nothing to do with pounding his chest. In any case, his melodrama in Orlando was sufficient, literally, for like 10 guys' careers worth... and just over a couple year span.
 
Over the last 12 games, Rudy is averaging 18.6 points on 71.8% from the floor, 14.8 rebounds, 3.1 blocks, and 2.0 assists per game.
 
It's not just lack of fire. The guy's a complete bum on offense. With those physical atttributes, he should have easily been scoring 25 a game every year. And yet he often only hovered around 19 because he never improved his game one iota.

He increased his scoring average for the first four years of his career. Everyone hits a wall at some point. He did pretty well from himself, he just never was able to become a consistent FT shooter.
 
He increased his scoring average for the first four years of his career. Everyone hits a wall at some point. He did pretty well from himself, he just never was able to become a consistent FT shooter.

Rofl. Pretty much every player does this, especially bigs and those coming right from high school, and he was both.
 
Wow. Dwight did a great job of basically never improving past the age of 22.

So PPG is the only measure of improvement? And even then, by that measure, he had his best season in 2011, which would have put him around 26 as his best statistical year.

Still dont get how "This player didnt reach the huge level of expectations that other people put on him" is a reason someone is a douce. Guess I just dont get hating on people for some petty **** that happened 6 years ago.
 
So PPG is the only measure of improvement? And even then, by that measure, he had his best season in 2011, which would have put him around 26 as his best statistical year.

Still dont get how "This player didnt reach the huge level of expectations that other people put on him" is a reason someone is a douce. Guess I just dont get hating on people for some petty **** that happened 6 years ago.

Why can't you just hate on Howard like a normal person? smd.
 
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