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some will find this weird, but it just has to be stated! concerning fearless girl vs EPIC BULL

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DutchJazzer

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the liberals have shown their true colors!!! the colors of totalitarianism and TYRANNY!
some people will say i'm jsut weird or a crazy cook.

but by now everybody knows the fearless girl

for you who don't know i wish i could live under a rock like you@!

anyways the famous bull statue represents: "The bull represents Freedom in the world Peace strength power and love!, The strength of America, the strength of the market."

But on the eve of International Women's Day, State Street Global Advisors placed the new a statue of a little girl, hands defiantly on hips, in front of the bull.


in a way it encapsulates the regressive left in a perfect metaphor.
whiny litlle weak girls standing up to the power of liberty strength love and peace!
yes the third wave feminist oppose all of those things, the left also oppose these things.
from stalin, to mao, to castro, to chavez, to hitler et al!


just perfectly encapsulates the stupidity of the regressive left.
wanting to destroy liberty!!!!!!!!


so yeah there you go. the artist of the bull is suing the city!


now go ahead and disagree with this!!!!!! just google the meaning of the bull, made by an artist himself! who would oppose liberty freedom peace strength power and love? WHO!? exactly TYRANTS! so quite Telling! subliminally through art sending their tyrannical totalitarian message
 
LOL .. if the bull represents "freedom and love", then the fearless girl also has the freedom to be there as well, no? Why can't the bull (or the artist) accept and 'love' that?



I mean these are your words I'm going off of.
 
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The bull represents the financial markets, as in a "bull market" which has pretty much nothing to do with freedom and liberty.

OP fail.

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Have you considered discussing these ideas with a health professional? Does the statue 'speak to you' and give you instructions and such? Do you feel that other inanimate objects are trying to oppress you? Is the fridge plotting against you? Has the toaster designs on your girlfriend? Has the coffee table been secretly been undermining you all along?
 
ONE LOVE said:
LOL .. if the bull represents "freedom and love", then the fearless girl also has the freedom to be there as well, no? Why can't the bull (or the artist) accept and 'love' that?



I mean these are your words I'm going off of.
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actually i might think you fail to see the symbolism!

standing up against liberty and freedom is TYRRANY!

with art and symbolism it isn't a matter of the statue being free to be their!
you cna put any statue wherever the f you want!

but with art their is a symbolism connecting to it. if you dispute like that idiot bulletproof that the bull stands for nothing to do with freedom and liberty, then i understand and then i side with the girl!

but the artist who made it said what the bull stands for. there are interviews of him SAYING what it stands for. and i think that artist has more credibility on the art and symbolism of his statue than bulletproof!

ofcourse the statue is free to be their! but dont you fail to see what the symbolism of it becomes?
 
Rubashov said:
Have you considered discussing these ideas with a health professional? Does the statue 'speak to you' and give you instructions and such? Do you feel that other inanimate objects are trying to oppress you? Is the fridge plotting against you? Has the toaster designs on your girlfriend? Has the coffee table been secretly been undermining you all along?
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DutchJazzer said:
actually i might think you fail to see the symbolism!

standing up against liberty and freedom is TYRRANY!

with art and symbolism it isn't a matter of the statue being free to be their!
you cna put any statue wherever the f you want!

but with art their is a symbolism connecting to it. if you dispute like that idiot bulletproof that the bull stands for nothing to do with freedom and liberty, then i understand and then i side with the girl!

but the artist who made it said what the bull stands for. there are interviews of him SAYING what it stands for. and i think that artist has more credibility on the art and symbolism of his statue than bulletproof!

ofcourse the statue is free to be their! but dont you fail to see what the symbolism of it becomes?
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Pretty sure by donating that bull sculpture to the city the artist had given up all the rights he has to the bull, so the city can do with it what it so chooses, including erecting the 'fearless girl' next to it, I don't think the artist has any right over it any longer.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Pretty sure by donating that bull sculpture to the city the artist had given up all the rights he has to the bull, so the city can do with it what it so chooses, including erecting the 'fearless girl' next to it, I don't think the artist has any right over it any longer.
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i think we are arguing different stuff.
seems like youa re arguing that the city can do whatever the f they want. i am arguing that it just show the true collors of the left as they have had throughout history.



look this isn't about what can be done or not, they could paint it pink and castrate it! but it is, the symbolism. by opposing the bull that stands for everything earlier stated.


it's like a skinhead putting up a nazi flag, i am all or it. i would rather every single skinhead in the world have a nazi flag in their yard!
i am not arguing the fearless girl should be gone!
you would argue skinheads should have the right to the flag, i would argue a skinhead is just showing his true colors!


get it? sorry for my bad english!
 
DutchJazzer said:
i think we are arguing different stuff.
seems like youa re arguing that the city can do whatever the f they want. i am arguing that it just show the true collors of the left as they have had throughout history.



look this isn't about what can be done or not, they could paint it pink and castrate it! but it is, the symbolism. by opposing the bull that stands for everything earlier stated.


it's like a skinhead putting up a nazi flag, i am all or it. i would rather every single skinhead in the world have a nazi flag in their yard!
i am not arguing the fearless girl should be gone!
you would argue skinheads should have the right to the flag, i would argue a skinhead is just showing his true colors!


get it? sorry for my bad english!
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I honestly do not get this obsession with either being 'left' or 'right'. I mean, can you seriously tell me that if you go in the street right and ask everyone there, and they can say definitively whether they are left or right?
 
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yeah so basically that

or this one though i think most republicans centrist and democrats are now they same, they just pay lipservice to their base

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almost every issue i can show you what the left or right priority is!
pro choice, pro life
pro gun, anti gun

just name an issue!
social justice vs equal justice

just name one!
 
DutchJazzer said:
almost every issue i can show you what the left or right priority is!
pro choice, pro life
pro gun, anti gun

just name an issue!
social justice vs equal justice

just name one!
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OK what would you call someone who's pro life but anti gun?


Or pro choice, and also pro gun?
 
I freely admit I have allowed you to get under my mostly(but not entirely) liberal skin at times. But you seem to actually demonize the left. You seem to be driven by a white hot level of blind hatred toward those who don't share your political views. I think it would be far more productive, and would likely tamp down demonization of one's opponents if one actually looked to understand why liberals and conservatives differ. Here's a couple of reading recommendations to start that process, should you chose.

Especially here in the states, where the polarization appears to be at an all time high in my 70 years, I don't see what harm it can really do....

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/calling-truce-political-wars/

https://braindecoder.com/post/politics-neuroscience-1282982492

At any rate, your blind and near rabid hatred certainly bleeds through your words, and it is one hell of a turn off. It reflects poorly on you, whether you realize it or not. I may let a conservative set me off at times, but I'm not looking to grab a baseball bat and rumble in the street with conservatives. It has reached that level in some recent competing demonstrations, but that has to mean making efforts to understand why we differ is all the more important. And, I admit, most of the time, I don't sound this accommodating. It's just that your rabid level of hatred does you no good, IMHO, just as my obsession with being anti-Trump is probably not too healthy for me at times.....
 
DutchJazzer said:
almost every issue i can show you what the left or right priority is!
pro choice, pro life
pro gun, anti gun

just name an issue!
social justice vs equal justice

just name one!
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And where does STFU fit on your scale of right vs. left priorities?
 
personally, I agree with the Bull's artist that the girl statue does make use of his Bull without permission, so to that extent, it seems there is some degree of copyright infringement

The lawyers accused State Street Global of commissioning “Fearless Girl” as a site-specific work that was conceived with “Charging Bull” in mind. They said that that had improperly commercialized Mr. Di Modica’s statue in violation of its copyright. They asserted that the city had violated his legal rights by issuing permits allowing the four-foot-tall “Fearless Girl” to stand across from the 11-foot bronze bull without Mr. Di Modica’s permission.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/nyregion/charging-bull-sculpture-wall-street-fearless-girl.html

and from what I originally read about this, the Fearless Girl is to be moved around and displayed at various locations around the country - so presumably she'll be "horning" in on the works of other artists as well. The original permit to display the Fearless Girl was for one week, but when it became such a sensation, the permit was extended.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Bro, but you're not even American.
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liberty freedom etc is not only an american thing.

look i am not saying they should not be allowed to do it!

can't you see i am trying to point out

that an artist made symbol of **** that is noble(or at least i consider noble) liberty, strength, peace and love) and what do people do they put something to OPPOSE it! and then worship the thing that opposes liberty strength and peace love and all that good stuff.

they coudl put 100 fealress girls opposing it, but it just shows their true colors!

it is exactly put in this meme
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is my English this bad that you don't understand what i mean? you don't have to agree, but it seems you do not understand.
 
moevillini said:
personally, I agree with the Bull's artist that the girl statue does make use of his Bull without permission, so to that extent, it seems there is some degree of copyright infringement
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yes that is something for lawyers to figure out in or out of court!

that is another issue, i have no opinion relaly on that. depends on what artist and city of new york agreed on way back etc etc!


to me it is just the symbolism, of people opposing the noble things the bull stands for!
 
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