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Bam is markedly bigger and more athletic than Thompson. That's not an upside scenario.

It's a realistic upside scenario. Maybe you didnt realize, but Thompson was the starting center on the most recent Championship team. I guess you could go into fantasy land upside and say he develops a reliable jumper, offensive moves, and ability to pass, but I'd be surprised. His best role would be something along the lines of Tristan Thompson's. A team where they wont ask him to do much offensively other than putbacks and dump offs and he can focus on imposing his strength and athleticism on the boards. If he goes to a team that tries to develop him outside of that I think he will fail. He will have to pick up the intensity too because he wont be able to rely on just being bigger than everyone else anymore.
 
But he is miles ahead of Bam in nearly every aspect of basketball other than flexing his traps.

And he is a center, just like Bam. Not sure what is with everyone trying to make these dudes 4's.

DX is listing Collins as a PF. He often played next to Karnowsky at Gonzaga. Actually, Gonzaga listed him as a PF too.
 
DX is listing Collins as a PF. He often played next to Karnowsky at Gonzaga. Actually, Gonzaga listed him as a PF too.

He was Karnowsky's backup....

I guess there is more hype for a 7' PF than being listed as a 7' C. Either, I firmly believe his best NBA position to be C.
 
I'm burning out my phone battery arguing with you. You'll go all day.

-- Collins was listed as a forward by Gonzaga. Is still listed as a PF by draft sites.
-- Good players develop their games as pros. Griffin, Horford and Millsap had no jumpshot to speak of out of school. They worked on their games and became All Stars. Adebayo has the physical talent to do the same.
-- Adebayo's freshman stats rival Horford's as a junior at Fla.
-- Adebayo's upside is comparable to Favors when Favors was drafted.

I'm guessing that Adebayo signed with an agent because he knows he's safely in the first round and will get a guaranteed contract. He has no business falling to the 2nd round, imo.
 
I'm burning out my phone battery arguing with you. You'll go all day.

Yes he will, and take it as a compliment that he continues to engage you, even if he does blast you a time or two along the way.

BTW, CY is kind of correct. Bolomboy listed as a F everywhere has played 41 of his 52 NBA minutes as a center. Not that I believe the sample tells the whole story, my eyes tell me Bolomboy is a pf if he is playing anything other than garbage minutes.
 
Yes he will, and take it as a compliment that he continues to engage you, even if he does blast you a time or two along the way.

BTW, CY is kind of correct. Bolomboy listed as a F everywhere has played 41 of his 52 NBA minutes as a center. Not that I believe the sample tells the whole story, my eyes tell me Bolomboy is a pf if he is playing anything other than garbage minutes.

https://dleague.nba.com/games/20170303/SLCTEX/

https://dleague.nba.com/games/20170204/IWASLC/

If the Jazz had any interest in developing Bolomboy as a 4 they would start him next to Sims.
 
It has nothing to do with underachieving. He is just an undersized player at a stacked NBA position without a lot of skill. People here can say he is a 4 all they want but the reality of the situation is that the NBA is moving away from playing dudes like Bam at the 4.

Along the lines of what Cy is saying here, I think positions are becoming less meaningful in the nba. Jazz for instance have a rim-protector and wings, rather than the traditional 5 positions. One of the fun aspects of this Jazz season has been seeing the identity Quin has created on the court. Watching the jazz play you can kind of predict what kind of players they might draft to fit into their team philosophies. So does (or could) BAM ADEBAYO fill the roll of Rim Protector or wing scorer/defender?
 
Along the lines of what Cy is saying here, I think positions are becoming less meaningful in the nba. Jazz for instance have a rim-protector and wings, rather than the traditional 5 positions. One of the fun aspects of this Jazz season has been seeing the identity Quin has created on the court. Watching the jazz play you can kind of predict what kind of players they might draft to fit into their team philosophies. So does (or could) BAM ADEBAYO fill the roll of Rim Protector or wing scorer/defender?

again if you are looking at the identity that the jazz have

stretch 4 who can shoot, rebound and play defense. Those type of players grow on trees.
deepth on the wing with cheep young talent
back up rim protector
possibly a starting caliber pg since exum seems to be playing the wing a lot
 
again if you are looking at the identity that the jazz have

stretch 4 who can shoot, rebound and play defense. Those type of players grow on trees.
deepth on the wing with cheep young talent
back up rim protector
possibly a starting caliber pg since exum seems to be playing the wing a lot
Stretch 4s grow on trees? That is news to me.

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It wouldn't mind Diallo with the 30th pick but I have a feeling he'll go much early. I remember that I predicted that Thon Maker would make it in the lottery and I got laughed at in the forum. lol
 
Our draft choices have been outstanding lately, last three lottery selections: Trey Burke, Trey Lyes, & Dante!!! AWWWRRHH lawd Joe Jesus please help us :eek:
 
Back to Bam, he also reminds me a lot of Patric Young in a lot of ways. Came into college with an insane body and frame and was highly athletic yet undersized for his position. Was mocked to be a top 5 lottery pick coming into his Freshman year then fell. He made the mistake of staying in college and never got out, never really improving his game. Just because someone ranked you high at one point doesnt make you a good player.
 
Back to Bam, he also reminds me a lot of Patric Young in a lot of ways. Came into college with an insane body and frame and was highly athletic yet undersized for his position. Was mocked to be a top 5 lottery pick coming into his Freshman year then fell. He made the mistake of staying in college and never got out, never really improving his game. Just because someone ranked you high at one point doesnt make you a good player.

Is that the guy who played 4 years at Florida?
 
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