Well the Jazz have been picking in the top 14 the past what, 6 years, so I have no idea. I dont expect us to get the #1 pick in for a workout. When was the last time the Jazz had picks exclusively in the 20's under this regime? Never.
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Well the Jazz have been picking in the top 14 the past what, 6 years, so I have no idea. I dont expect us to get the #1 pick in for a workout. When was the last time the Jazz had picks exclusively in the 20's under this regime? Never.
ncoloradojazz
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If jazz did make a promise they wouldn't have told him with what pick. come on now..common sense catchall.lol
QUOTE=Catchall;1424386]I'm starting to think the Jazz have a trade-up opportunity on the table involving Boris Diaw's contract and the #24 pick. Could be with Charlotte or Detroit. It explains why the Jazz are getting Mitchell to work out with them and why they interviewed Zach Collins at the Combine.
Detroit in particular wants to clean house and needs cap relief.
If the Jazz really did make a promise to DJ Wilson, it would be with the 30th pick, not 24.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=Catchall;1424386]I'm starting to think the Jazz have a trade-up opportunity on the table involving Boris Diaw's contract and the #24 pick. Could be with Charlotte or Detroit. It explains why the Jazz are getting Mitchell to work out with them and why they interviewed Zach Collins at the Combine.
Detroit in particular wants to clean house and needs cap relief.
If the Jazz really did make a promise to DJ Wilson, it would be with the 30th pick, not 24.[/QUOTE]
ncoloradojazz
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Lmao. Giving up a first round pick in a very deep class for Job Leurs.lmao... Stronghold accept happily. wouldn't even have to give up Trey Lyles. I normally see trades where the Jazz fans over value their players but this one where you are under valuing your pick and over valuing the follow players
QUOTE=Crocodile Dante;1424406]let me ask (i am not saying i like it one way or the other)
Jazz trade #24 Lyles and Diaw to Detroit for Jon Leuers 3 years $30 million and #12?
Leuer only shot 29% from 3 last year (38%, 24% and 47% the past 4 years)
Is it worth it to move up to take on that awful contract and I figure lyles would be in the mix instead of the 30th pick and Leuer and Lyles is very redundent. If i was Detroit in order for me to trade the 12th pick i would want #30 also
would you like it?[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=Crocodile Dante;1424406]let me ask (i am not saying i like it one way or the other)
Jazz trade #24 Lyles and Diaw to Detroit for Jon Leuers 3 years $30 million and #12?
Leuer only shot 29% from 3 last year (38%, 24% and 47% the past 4 years)
Is it worth it to move up to take on that awful contract and I figure lyles would be in the mix instead of the 30th pick and Leuer and Lyles is very redundent. If i was Detroit in order for me to trade the 12th pick i would want #30 also
would you like it?[/QUOTE]
In 2016, when the Jazz had the 12th pick, the highest rated player the Jazz got to work out for them was Poeltl, whose range was 8 - 12.
In 2015, the Jazz had the 12th pick, and the highest rated players the Jazz got in for a workout were Turner, Lyles and Oubre. Turner's range was considered 9 - 13.
Both these years, the Jazz worked out 100 guys. It's not that they weren't willing to workout the higher rated players, it's that the agents won't send a player to work out with teams below their draft range.
There's a difference between getting the top tier guys in a draft, the guys who are going to go top 5 to workout for you when you draft at 12 than getting a guy 10 spots up at 24. Silly to equate them as equal situations.
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If the Jazz really made a promise to Wilson, they most likely said they'd take him in the first round. Everyone knows which picks the Jazz have. You can interpret that to mean by pick 30.
It makes little to no sense for the Jazz to promise DJ Wilson with the 24th pick, when the general consensus suggests he'll be available in the 26 - 30 range. But that's just speculation.
The Jazz can promise Wilson in the first round and still trade their 24th pick.
When Mitchell works out for the Raptors, Nets and Thunder who are slated to pick 21 - 23, you can call me on it.
Why? Maybe Mitchell's agent doesnt like those fits.
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obvisouly reading comprehension is not you forte. I looked at it from the pistons not as a jazz fan. For a team to drop 12 spaces in a good draft they had better get value.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Yes. He's who I want.
Donovan Mitchell working out for the Jazz and Zach Collins meeting with the Jazz at the Combine is likely a sign of their agents just wanting them to have a safety net option in case they drop on draft day. Meet with a few teams in the 20's just in case. There's a lot of beauty is in the eye of the beholder after the first 10 picks or so in this class. Someone is probably going to fall farther than expected. I don't think it means a trade is imminent.
Miggs
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Ugh. Dude, the Pistons aren't moving down 12 spots to unload Leuer and pick up a crappy player an expiring.
You don't think they would trade Leuer and 12 for 24 and 30?
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Miggs
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No I don't. If we can do that, it's a no-brainer. We'd be that close to the cream of the crop and could maybe move up more with another trade.
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everyone wa saying we could trade with the pistons so I looked at what they piston would want to trade that is all.
The Pistons are over the cap and need to go another $10M - $12M over to extend KCP. They also have a sub-.500 team. They're going to make moves to relieve salary pressure and shake up their roster. That makes Utah an attractive trade partner. If Detroit can take Diaw's deal it saves them having to dump a contract into another team's cap (which usually costs a 1st rd pick), it would keep them away from the luxury tax, and should give them a bit of flexibility to make another deal. Jazz can offer to swap first-round picks and add a 2nd rounder or a bit player.
This isn't a rumor or anything, it's just to say that the Jazz are able to offer cap relief and have an extra pick in this draft. The other team that could do this type of deal is Brooklyn.
A player like Aron Baynes could get added to save the Pistons a few more bucks.
This isn't a rumor or anything, it's just to say that the Jazz are able to offer cap relief and have an extra pick in this draft. The other team that could do this type of deal is Brooklyn.
A player like Aron Baynes could get added to save the Pistons a few more bucks.
Portland is another team in cap hell that could swap picks in return for Diaw's contract. They have #15.
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Cappy_Smurf
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Are you assuming we are losing Hayward, Hill, and Ingles? I'm not sure what you're getting at with this. These teams would have to send salary back in order for Diaw's contract to help them cut salary.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
We take back salary and likely lose Ingles. Or get a cheaper point guard than Hill by about $10M a year.
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