What these savages really need is a bit of Christianity...
Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking
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What these savages really need is a bit of Christianity...
DutchJazzer
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Actually the election directly disproves this. More people voted for Clinton than the President. yes the E.C. and all that. I am not disputing he won. But if we are talking about being in our out of touch with "America" then that is a general population game and there has been nothing, at any point whatsoever, to show that the President represents a majority of America.
In fact I believe the opposite is true. I think a majority oppose him to some degree.
But hey why worry about that when the british still exist
trump won MORE AREA!
also their have been report of voter fraud(ooh wait sorry voter fraud does not exist)
I used to think Stoked was a fair conservative. I just don't think he carries water for that team, or cares to. I think you and Jonah are excellent examples of the Bush sort of Republicans.
We have some solid conservative radio talk show hosts in people like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, who are fully connected with the realities of today's world. Millions of Americans like them, and are grateful to have their programs on air. Mark Levin is a solid conservative Republican as well, and a solid legal expert on some things, like the Constitution.
Utah/Mormon based conservatives sometimes are not so realistic or grounded in today's world, what with the Book of Ether figuring in to validate rash and simplistic "conspiracy theories" essentially along the lines of evil men with sworn blood oaths like the Gadianton Robbers, and such.
I don't think Joel Skousen, son of W. Cleon Skousen of "The Naked Communist" and "The Naked Capitalist" school of political analysis have got it nailed by any means. I think the ideals of the founding fathers in regard to human rights, human dignity, and human opportunity have been largely displaced in today's culture, and people want their government to do stuff, even on a global scale. I just think the people are handled like mushrooms too much, and we have no objective media outing the real skunks.
I don't think we can have good government by immoral people. I think that is where you get off, or never got on the Trump Train, and that was the problem why Trump did not get the same kind of enthusiasm in Utah.
But really, do you expect me to believe there has never been a good, fair, or objective conservative in here who would have served to balance the tone of JazzFanz rhetoric a bit?
It is true I range the field, and pick up stuff from across the spectrum. I have a wife who is Republican to the core, a Milton Friedman economist. I like Lyndon LaRouche, whom I have met. I know he even visited Henry E. Eyring years ago, and spent hours talking with him. Eyring was like that. He appreciated people who had some interesting point of view coming around to visit.
I don't fit with today's democrats since the Clinton sold out the Party to the Banks. While I would espouse the interests of the common man, I think history vindicates the notions that governments never do right for the peon/peasant/serf sort.
I call it the mushroom cloud.
I signed up as a Republican a few years ago, after many years as an independent. I would self-identify most with Sean Hannity.
I was going to pos rep this, since it proves you do read my comments sometimes, and still have a sense of humor.
too much work to look for some other things to rep so I can have the privilege.
DutchJazzer
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are you sure?
when i said socialism is like ****, i could tell you you if certain things got compared to rape! i would not have been gone for 6 months!
it feels like a double standard
Zombie
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Trump is rocking something like a 60% disapproval rating right now so I'm a little confused by the notion that people who don't support him online must be paid hacks. Just doesn't make any sense.
Also I'm now convinced that babe isn't a real person. No actual human would ever say something like this :
"I would self-identify most with Sean Hannity"
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Also I'm now convinced that babe isn't a real person. No actual human would ever say something like this :
"I would self-identify most with Sean Hannity"
Sent from my VS987 using JazzFanz mobile app
[MENTION=970]babe[/MENTION] post 703 has some good stuff in it. I like the part about good gov and immoral people.
But then you align yourself with Hannity? He is the Maddow of the right. A intentionally biased, misinforming blowhard. Terrible.
I am foreign policy, military and economically right leaning in my views. I am left leaning in most social matters. I refuse to carry water for either "team" as I find the professionals on those teams to be by and large morally bankrupt.
But then you align yourself with Hannity? He is the Maddow of the right. A intentionally biased, misinforming blowhard. Terrible.
I am foreign policy, military and economically right leaning in my views. I am left leaning in most social matters. I refuse to carry water for either "team" as I find the professionals on those teams to be by and large morally bankrupt.
Are you kidding? lol
I hear that crap all the time. Plenty of people view him in a very positive light. I am most certainly not one of them.
Zombie
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Yeah, I was mostly kidding around. Its just odd. There are plenty of thoughtful conservatives who, while I may disagree with them politically, arrive at their views in a reasonable principled fashion.
Hannity is about the furthest thing from that. He's less a conservative 'thinker' than a bomb thrower.
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Amen! I 100% agree.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice-officials-say/ar-BBCGuJn?li=BBnb7Kz
So now look who is under investigation. Do you suppose Trump is really, really wishing he hadn't fired Comey?
So now look who is under investigation. Do you suppose Trump is really, really wishing he hadn't fired Comey?
I don't know who carries the true flag for "conservatives". I don't think I'm one, really. My wife tells her friends I'm a socialist. Well, in terms of some I might be. I think our government oughtta build dams, desalination plants, canals, and keep water cheap enough to water our lawns. And maybe roads. yes, roads. I like Hannity because he is fairly moderate.... compared, say to Alex Jones or Michael Savage. He's what I call a "well-socialized" human being. He will have a lot of different folks on his program, and get two with polar opposite views together for a bit.
The other 'conservative' who can do that with grace is Andrew Wilkow, who has some kind of friendly relationship with Nancty Pelosi's daughter.
I think Sean Hannity is maybe IQ 105, so maybe not the scholar type. He's the guy you'd find in a bar who has the decency to be polite to everyone. I've followed him through about ten years, from being a George Bush loyalist, a Mitt loyalist, to Trump loyalist.
I just think America has room for some Patriot good ol' boys, and that's how I see Sean.
This has been a theme around here for about as long as I've been on this site, so here's the traditional response:
I and at least two other people have met [MENTION=970]babe[/MENTION] in person. One of those other 2 is a current and long time moderator. I also met one of his twin daughters and she was adorably conversational.
You and me both. I've long doubted my connection to reality. One of my favorite books when I was a teen was "Ship of Fools", I forget who wrote it. Studying Russian Literature my favs were Nicolai Gogol for his "Dead Souls", and Eugene Zamyatin for his "We". My favorite song was "Fool on the Hill", I think it was set on one of San Francisco's hills, about watching the way humans do and just being so out of touch nobody for sure would ever listen.
I remember being frustrated with Hannity, from the point of view of a fairly coherent socialist with big ideas for the world, and that Americana patriot stuff just seemed small town.
I think what has tipped me over is the hate level of the rhetoric on the anti-Trump "Resistance". Now if it were just a lot of Coltons or Jonahs pointing out the problems, I might be more willing to be agreeable.
Douchebag K
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From a distance this just seems like it's getting to the embarrassing witch hunt stage that is a bit of a joke to the rest of the world
Douchebag K
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From a distance this just seems like it's getting to the embarrassing witch hunt stage that is a bit of a joke to the rest of the world
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Makes sense. Sounds like babe tbh
While I do not think Trump has done anything that rises to the level of obstruction of justice, one would think that this will give him some idea that his words and actions matter and he needs to stay out of his own way. Recent history does not make this seem likely, however. He's like a bull in a china shop.
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The Thriller
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You don't?
Could you list at least one action trump has done that an innocent person would make? He must have idolized OJ Simpson. Literally everything he has done and continues to do is indicative of every case study I've ever read of a guilty person. From refusing to acknowledge or care about Russian collusion (revealed by both Comey and sessions) to wanting to hide and/or prospect those In his inner circle with criminal connections to Russia to refusing to release his tax forms despite paying a heavy political price, to demanding Comey to shut down the investigation, to firing Comey, to now making himself a martyr by attempting to smear law enforcement merely performing their jobs.
Seriously Jazzgal, you're a bright and fair individual.
Has trump done anything that an innocent person would do?
Another question, aren't trump's actions exactly that of a guilty person?
What completely innocent president wouldn't be mad as hell and get to the bottom of Russian interference in the election? Unless... you already know the answer.
For me, the evidence is already painfully obvious; Especially when you consider Russian hacking and the release of damaging material to Clinton timed exactly when trump was falling behind in the election. This investigation for me is less about discovering connections and more about confirming what most americans already know.