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Following potential 2017 draftees...

Have people made the comparison of Josh Hart to Wesley Matthews... I think I'd take Hart with #30... liked him before but was concerned with age... Pelton's analysis has him #13 ranked prospect... says a lot considering he's a senior.

I think he's a rotation player and no way he will be there at 42.
 
I think Derrick White could be kind of a poor mans Hill. He's a worse defender, and might be a similar athlete to Hill currently, but has good length and is a good shooter. Good, but not great vision. Just an all around solid guard.

He'd make a great backup/spot starter, and maybe eventual starter. Plus he can play off-ball. Bring him to me.
 
If were going to beat GSW we need a player who can put up 30 points, in our range its a short list. Frank Mason will be there last im going to say it
 
Damn, Patton is moving up the boards. I was hoping he'd fall to the 20s, but that's looking like a pipe dream now. He's my second favorite big in the draft, maybe even my favorite.
 
Lydon at 24 is a good pick. Hell no to Bradley in the 1st-round.

Damn.. Evans fell to 38. If we could get him at 42 it would be a steal.


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I would prefer to see them as draft Semi Ojeley at #24 and then see which big man falls to #30. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see Lydon fall that far. I can honestly say that I hate the Tony Bradley pick. Would much rather have ANY of the next 6 picks - Hartenstein, Kuzma, Swanigan, Bell, Jackson or Bolden. In fact, I'd take one at #30 (Jordan Bell) and then trade 42, 55 and cash to get another one from that same group of players. That would be a great draft.

Also wouldn't mind seeing the Jazz take a late flyer on Jonathan Jeanne and hope he can return to basketball like Isaiah Austin has. DL has both Baylor connections and a good working relationship with Jeanne's agent. CBS Sports floated the idea that somebody takes a chance on him getting medically cleared someday. If you managed it right, I could easily see that happening.
 
I mean, I get the interest in Bradley. Giant wingspan and huge standing reach while being decently mobile with a high motor. Seems like there is an extremely high floor there, especially if his jump shot impressed. He might not have the ceiling because of the lack of explosiveness, but when you have a 9'5 standing reach and can move your feet how explosive do you really need to be to have an impact as a backup?

His height to wingspan and height to standing reach ratios are nearly similar to Rudy Gobert's. At 6'10 having a 7'5 wingspan and 9'4.5 standing reach is bonkers. Maybe the Jazz think because he is so young, there is still some athletic potential once his body matures.

Now that I think about it more, I think I like him more than Pazenciks. He is 2 years young and already far tougher on the boards. Bradley's rebounding should definitely translate from Day 1 and I'm not positive Pazenciks will have the same luxury adapting to the NBA game. I think Bradley has Marc Gasol like defensive upside. Seems like a smart kid and has a huge body. Won't be a shot blocking threat like Rudy, but could learn to play elite positional defense with his length and feet.

And yes, this is me talking myself into one of the least sexy picks the Jazz can make.
 
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I hope it's not Lydon at 24. I just don't see him ever developing into more than a backup SF/PF role player who is probably just a 3 point specialist. I think that's his ceiling. And with multiple players who have higher upsides likely to be available I just can't talk myself into that selection if it happens.
 
I hope it's not Lydon at 24. I just don't see him ever developing into more than a backup SF/PF role player who is probably just a 3 point specialist. I think that's his ceiling. And with multiple players who have higher upsides likely to be available I just can't talk myself into that selection if it happens.

I just don't get the Lydon love at all
 
Can we please just draft Bell? He's the enforcer and competitive player we need next to Gobert. He's a physical specimen whiteout having played one game in the NBA. Please, just let the jazz draft this dude!!!
 
I just don't get the Lydon love at all

One of the best shooters in the draft. Plays within himself.. somewhat athletic. Decent passer... I mean we are picking in the 20s there isn't a whole lot to get. If he had that plus he was an elite defender he's a lotto pick.
 
One of the best shooters in the draft. Plays within himself.. somewhat athletic. Decent passer... I mean we are picking in the 20s there isn't a whole lot to get. If he had that plus he was an elite defender he's a lotto pick.

Or we could get a guy like Bell, who will get putbacks, play defense, get offensive putbacks and just add to our defensive identity, while playing that Booker enforcer role. To me Lydon is a one dimensional player. Who sits outside.
 
Leaf vs Lydon

Lydon is the better shooter, over 80% ft compared to 68% for leaf

Lydon attempted some monster dunks he came up just short on Leaf would have finished. But I give shooting to Lydon.

Is Lydon the the next Kanter? No, much better D

I don't think Lydon falls to 30.
 
From the Sixers Private workout:


But lack of height doesn’t seem to have ever been a problem for him. Mason exploded in his final year at Kansas, averaging 20.9 points and 5.2 assists per game while shooting 49 percent from the field and 47.1 percent from beyond the arc en route to being named the 2017 Naismith College Player of the Year.

During his workout with the Sixers Mason flashed all the tools that helped him earn that recognition: speed, solid shooting and composure in the paint. The Virginia native knocked down a deep three over the outstretched arm of a defender before the buzzer in the three-on-three portion of the workout, and finished through Duke’s Amile Jefferson on a few occasions.

“[Frank] did a really nice job this morning,” Sixers vice president of player personnel Marc Eversley said. “He had a terrific year shooting the ball. He’s especially terrific in transition and finishes very well in the paint.”

Eversley think Mason has both the physical and mental tools to make up for what he lacks in the size department.

“I think speed, quickness, toughness,” Eversley said about Mason’s strengths. “He’s courageous, very courageous. He does a lot with his body.”

Mason’s sneaky atheltic, and he’ll be the first to tell you “not too many people know that”. At the combine he posted a max vertical leap of 42 inches, good for third best behind Hamidou Diallo and Frank Jackson.

Also found this interesting. Frank's favorite player? AI? Spud webb? Isiah Thomas? Naw, it's Dirk
 
Or we could get a guy like Bell, who will get putbacks, play defense, get offensive putbacks and just add to our defensive identity, while playing that Booker enforcer role. To me Lydon is a one dimensional player. Who sits outside.

Bell is one dimensional too... just his dimension is defense.

Lydon is long... gets deflections and blocks. If he gets quicker laterally and stronger he may be great on that end.

I like Bell, but let's not pretend he is flawless... he isn't particularly long. He doesn't box out well, so he's an undiscliplined rebounder. If better Booker is his ceiling then Lydon may have more upside. If Lydon is a similar player to Ryan Anderson that is much more valuable than a Booker type player.
 
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