Dante Exum: shoulder injury

[fishonjazz]

Why do you pay 6-8 million a year to 19 year olds that have never played a minute of professional basketball?

Because you have to. I think draft picks don't really negotiate contracts. It's already determined based on where you are picked or something iirc.

The question you should be asking is, Do teams pay 22 year olds who have been in the league for 4 years that have produced similarly to Dante and have had multiple major injuries, big time money?

That's the question that is relevant here I think.

I don't know the answer fwiw.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I mean same logic basically. If the open market dictates your player is worth more than his current value than that is what you pay.

To make this clear I am by no means saying we should extend Exum at that number. The risk of a large contract going Exum's way is so small that the Jazz can sit on their hands and see what happens. I'm saying I could see that being an offer sheet Exum does obtain.

No one is going to give him that offer sheet because they know the Jazz will just match it.

1. It hurts the Jazz more for him to sit in RFA for as long as possible given his cap hold
2. Teams dont want to overpay for a guy like Exum just so the Jazz wont match

 

[Getting Traded]

I disagree with the idea you label somebody injury prone over a freak accident. Dante could have been in a car accident and some fans would be calling him injury prone. Good for you for supporting him, but I dislike your post. Don't worry though, I dislike other people's posts, and they all seem to get over it, so I think you'll be ok. If not, I'm afraid you might be prone to oversensitivity, which means you might not last as a Jazzfanz poster.

Listen, weenie, I've been on here for 14 years, the year Jason started the site. Sure, it's a freak accident but he's had other injuries. I think he should not have come to the NBA when he did. He wasn't ready; his body wasn't mature. And as I pointed out, one injury often leads to another. I'm not the only one calling Dante injury prone. Just go out on the Internet and see what people are saying, doofus.

 

[JimLes]

The question you should be asking is, Do teams pay 22 year olds who have been in the league for 4 years that have produced similarly to Dante and have had multiple major injuries, big time money?

I'm not sure generalizing is a good way to go about this. Never mind other players and never mind other teams. The question ought to be simply should the Jazz pay Dante Exum big time money? Does the team believe he can develop into someone giving us quality minutes?

 

[elan_prodigy]

Jazz just need to ask themselves;

Do they beleive in the kid?

Do they trust their player development?

If the answers are yes, its not that complicated. My guess would be 4yrs @ $6Mil-$8Mil/yr. I just hope he gets a chance to get back this year, fingers crossed.

 

[♪alt13]

Suggested training for NBA players.

**** faced parkour

Srsly

 

[Getting Traded]

Jazz just need to ask themselves;

Do they beleive in the kid?

Do they trust their player development?

If the answers are yes, its not that complicated. My guess would be 4yrs @ $6Mil-$8Mil/yr. I just hope he gets a chance to get back this year, fingers crossed.

Where's your rebuttal? You don't agree that Dante came to the NBA too early? It was obvious he had not matured enough. The proof is in the pudding. If he had waited a couple years, he may not have suffered some of these injuries because he would've been a lot stronger. He has been rather fragile from the beginning. Opposing players were throwing him around like a rag doll even last year. He has matured a lot since then but unfortunately he suffered another misfortune.

 

[elan_prodigy]

Where's your rebuttal? You don't agree that Dante came to the NBA too early? It was obvious he had not matured enough. The proof is in the pudding. If he had waited a couple years, he may not have suffered some of these injuries because he would've been a lot stronger. He has been rather fragile from the beginning. Opposing players were throwing him around like a rag doll even last year. He has matured a lot since then but unfortunately he suffered another misfortune.

Dude, no one cares how long you've been on here and backing your opinion by "what othere on the internet say" does nothing for me. You said the shoulder was a freak accident, he had an ACL, so what are these other "injuries" you speak of?

What rookie doesn't get pushed around if you play against starters? Anybody can look back with hindsight and questions decisions, about as useful as **** ona bull though, meens nothing.

And dont PM me whinging about Australians, **** is pathetic.

 

[Douchebag K]

Listen, weenie, I've been on here for 14 years, the year Jason started the site. Sure, it's a freak accident but he's had other injuries. I think he should not have come to the NBA when he did. He wasn't ready; his body wasn't mature. And as I pointed out, one injury often leads to another. I'm not the only one calling Dante injury prone. Just go out on the Internet and see what people are saying, doofus.

Who gives a rats what knobs on the internet say?? injury prone normally infers something like recurrent soft tissue or joint injuries that indicate a player can't withstand the wear and tear. X played all 82 games as a 19 year old, then had an ACL which isn't exactly rare in basketball. Then some American douche decides he's playing Aussie rules on a basketball court and jumps on his head smashing his shoulder. Injury prone ?? Not exactly accurate

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Who gives a rats what knobs on the internet say?? injury prone normally infers something like recurrent soft tissue or joint injuries that indicate a player can't withstand the wear and tear. X played all 82 games as a 19 year old, then had an ACL which isn't exactly rare in basketball. Then some American douche decides he's playing Aussie rules on a basketball court and jumps on his head smashing his shoulder. Injury prone ?? Not exactly accurate

Nah, injury prone infers someone gets injured a lot.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Listen, weenie, I've been on here for 14 years, the year Jason started the site. .

Lmao. What was your username? I usually remember the nut jobs, so it might bring back memories. If you don't want to admit your original name, that's ok. I'll just assume you are lying. Either way, being around for a long time doesn't add the slightest credibility to your opinion in this case. Cool story though.

I'm not the only one calling Dante injury prone. Just go out on the Internet and see what people are saying, doofus.

I'm well aware that you have company in your erroneous conclusions. Idiots like to run in packs.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Nah, injury prone infers someone gets injured a lot.

Saint Cy, winner of the 2017 semantics championships.

2 injuries, one of which a freak accident, don't constitute somebody being injury prone. Anyone who thinks it does is a moron.

 

[Getting Traded]

Who gives a rats what knobs on the internet say?? injury prone normally infers something like recurrent soft tissue or joint injuries that indicate a player can't withstand the wear and tear. X played all 82 games as a 19 year old, then had an ACL which isn't exactly rare in basketball. Then some American douche decides he's playing Aussie rules on a basketball court and jumps on his head smashing his shoulder. Injury prone ?? Not exactly accurate

You can think what you want, Assies. The bottomline is that I don't want him to get injured anymore than you do. But tell me, how many games has he missed in three years of playing and how many has he played? It was pretty apparent that Dante needed and still needs to get stronger. I did see some games live the last couple of years and noticed how other teams seemed to intentionally get extra physical with him because he wasn't very strong and was frustrated because the refs were then calling the fouls on Dante who tried to resist. I stick by my earlier opinion that he would've been better served had he played college ball in the U.S. for a couple of years before coming to the NBA. Why can't you accept reality? He hasn't lived up to expectations, yet. Of course, I like most of us here am still hopeful.

 

[Douchebag K]

You can think what you want, Assies. The bottomline is that I don't want him to get injured anymore than you do. But tell me, how many games has he missed in three years of playing and how many has he played? It was pretty apparent that Dante needed and still needs to get stronger. I did see some games live the last couple of years and noticed how other teams seemed to intentionally get extra physical with him because he wasn't very strong and was frustrated because the refs were then calling the fouls on Dante who tried to resist. I stick by my earlier opinion that he would've been better served had he played college ball in the U.S. for a couple of years before coming to the NBA. Why can't you accept reality? He hasn't lived up to expectations, yet. Of course, I like most of us here am still hopeful.

Of course he declared too early, hard to resist when you're told you're gonna get drafted top 10 tho. This injury is a freak accident tho caused by a reckless idiotic play, you just can't paint it any other way.

 

[elan_prodigy]

Lmao. What was your username? I usually remember the nut jobs, so it might bring back memories. If you don't want to admit your original name, that's ok. I'll just assume you are lying. Either way, being around for a long time doesn't add the slightest credibility to your opinion in this case. Cool story though.


I'm well aware that you have company in your erroneous conclusions. Idiots like to run in packs.

Lol.

 

[♪alt13]

Who gives a rats what knobs on the internet say?? injury prone normally infers something like recurrent soft tissue or joint injuries that indicate a player can't withstand the wear and tear. X played all 82 games as a 19 year old, then had an ACL which isn't exactly rare in basketball. Then some American douche decides he's playing Aussie rules on a basketball court and jumps on his head smashing his shoulder. Injury prone ?? Not exactly accurate

Australians are weak

Truth

 

[stitches]

Inigo Montoya must be rubbing off on you in stating the obvious. Nobody is saying Utah can force him not to take the QO.

Like I have posted before, Utah will take some risk with an overpay, with the idea that Dante will live up to his contract, in order to avoid Dante becoming unrestricted in one year. And Dante, who has now suffered 2 serious injuries, is not going to turn down 35-40 million to gamble on more money. He just watched George Hill get torched by turning down money, and the entire league is aware of what happened with Noel.

That's the thing... I don't think the Jazz give him 40M.

 

[Gameface]

Lmao. What was your username? I usually remember the nut jobs, so it might bring back memories. If you don't want to admit your original name, that's ok. I'll just assume you are lying. Either way, being around for a long time doesn't add the slightest credibility to your opinion in this case. Cool story though.


I'm well aware that you have company in your erroneous conclusions. Idiots like to run in packs.

He was Write4u or however he might have spelled that.

Guy has legit mental issues. I'm not trying to be funny or score points, the guy has legit mental issues.

 

[Rubashov]

Australians are weak

Truth

Yanks are all mouth and no trousers.

 

[Et tu Brute]

Australians are weak

Truth

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