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And as an added bonus, he is creating another controversy to distract from the Russian investigation. Who cares if people die over it, if it causes instability in other countries? They are foreigners after all and apparently do not matter because we know better than everyone else in the world.

I love my country but hate our foreign policy.
If you are are so afraid of Arabs and Muslims reacting with violence and murder, then you are saying Muslims use violence to get what they want, it's always been this way. When you are worried about violence from "The Religion of Peace" you might want to take a step back and reevaluate the facts.
 
if the fear of violent reaction is a reason to not do something, you are not free!

liberty comes with dangers. Israel made Jerusalem it's capital, deal with it! usa now recognizes the liberty Israel has and recognizes Jerusalem as its capital!

it is nice to see that "cnn=isis" is comming trhough i have seen cnn take the side of terorist organziations in the past 24 hours!

GLORIOUS! only good thing they had to say about trump is he keeps his promises, then corrected his useless bumper sticker promises.


they had more good to say about Hamas and Hezbollah then their own president! that is a sign cnn = fake news!
 
if the fear of violent reaction is a reason to not do something, you are not free!

liberty comes with dangers. Israel made Jerusalem it's capital, deal with it! usa now recognizes the liberty Israel has and recognizes Jerusalem as its capital!

it is nice to see that "cnn=isis" is comming trhough i have seen cnn take the side of terorist organziations in the past 24 hours!

GLORIOUS! only good thing they had to say about trump is he keeps his promises, then corrected: his useless bumper sticker promises.(paraphrasing here)


they had more good to say about Hamas and Hezbollah then their own president! that is a sign cnn = fake news!
 
Are there people here who consider the idea of giving Jerusalem to the Palestinians to be legitimate option? Jerusalem is literally the home of Judaism. That is the reason it is important. If that point is up for negotiation then you might as well just wipe Israel off the map. I really think there are very few people other than Arab extremists who would consider such a solution. So, if that is the case, why not recognize the capital that the Israeli people chose? In my opinion Jerusalem should belong to the Jews. That point ought to be off the negotiating table. The interesting thing is that the US Government long ago recognized Jerusalem as the capital in a nearly unanimous vote.
 
Are there people here who consider the idea of giving Jerusalem to the Palestinians to be legitimate option? Jerusalem is literally the home of Judaism. That is the reason it is important. If that point is up for negotiation then you might as well just wipe Israel off the map. I really think there are very few people other than Arab extremists who would consider such a solution. So, if that is the case, why not recognize the capital that the Israeli people chose? In my opinion Jerusalem should belong to the Jews. That point ought to be off the negotiating table. The interesting thing is that the US Government long ago recognized Jerusalem as the capital in a nearly unanimous vote.
also jeruzalem is not holy to islam.

the Modus operandi of islamist is taking over a region, demolish the holy places of those people! and erect mosques there. they did it for centuries!


the temple mount belongs to the jews, for milenia before islam was erected.

after mohamed died in 623, his folowers had an internal civil war, they then moved onto conquering other regions of the middle east and the world! from 633-644 AC they conquered the regions syria and iraq demolished the local peoples holy places and erected mosques.
640-643 they did the same to persia and did the same. then they moved into jeruzalem anddid the same in 691 they commisioned to start building the temple on the jewish holy site!

those savaged tried to spread islam by the sword through the whole world, then came the crusades to drive these savages back!

over the centuries these islamist have done the same to different regions and different religions, they did it in the maldives which was a budhist paradise, they destoryed beautifull budhist temples and statues and on the same place they erected mosques!



they even try to do it on ground zero!


this is just the sad truth!

the only thing keeping the jews(the religious ones at bay) is the respect we are urged to have from destroying other peoples places of worship! we have hope that one day by some natural disaster of miracle of god the mosque is gone, and we can rebuild OUR TEMPLE!


this is the sad truth, it might not be politically corrected. i refrained from stating facts of islamist prophet mohamed, and his wife, because of a looming ban!


the Jews accepted a compromise before the 6 day war by splitting Jerusalem, the Islamist refused. well tough luck. **** peace with them!

even the science is on our side, carbon dating the remains of the temple etc shows we where their first. but always driven out by different savages over the centuries! NO MORE! JERUSALEM BELONGS TO US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!christians welcome!

and as the story of samson and delialah has a moral. is if we get brought back to the edge of oblivion looking down into the abys like the socialist made us do in the 1940's. next time we will take the whole world down with us!
 
Are there people here who consider the idea of giving Jerusalem to the Palestinians to be legitimate option? Jerusalem is literally the home of Judaism. That is the reason it is important. If that point is up for negotiation then you might as well just wipe Israel off the map. I really think there are very few people other than Arab extremists who would consider such a solution. So, if that is the case, why not recognize the capital that the Israeli people chose? In my opinion Jerusalem should belong to the Jews. That point ought to be off the negotiating table. The interesting thing is that the US Government long ago recognized Jerusalem as the capital in a nearly unanimous vote.

Because it hurts every desired goal we have in the ME. I do not care what is best for Israel. I care what is best for the US. Israel already receives massive amounts of support from the US, this will not move the needle for our alliance.

However it does move the needle for our other ME relations. A strong Saudi led alliance that counters Iran and it's growing alliance is what's best for the US. A strengthening Israel/Saudi alliance is best for the US. Efforts on both are happening now.

I see this hurting both of those efforts. I see little to no gain.

Did anyone even mention all this wiping Israel off the map stuff?
 


this punk needed to be shot down om the spot the moment he entered the building! to bad this did not happen in amsterdam or Texas or other liberty loving states!

the police let him enter the building armed with a hammer, creaming how he is gonna kill and exterminate jews!
 
Because it hurts every desired goal we have in the ME. I do not care what is best for Israel. I care what is best for the US. Israel already receives massive amounts of support from the US, this will not move the needle for our alliance.

However it does move the needle for our other ME relations. A strong Saudi led alliance that counters Iran and it's growing alliance is what's best for the US. A strengthening Israel/Saudi alliance is best for the US. Efforts on both are happening now.

I see this hurting both of those efforts. I see little to no gain.

Did anyone even mention all this wiping Israel off the map stuff?
when jews compromised and gave half of jerusalem to arabs thye refused and wnet to war. jews won that war. with each passing day jews are less in need of a peace treaty! because through their action they are safer than they were 5 years ago safer than in the 90's. with eahc passing day live in israel gets safer and safer
 
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I was actually trying to remember the name of who had "challenged me on the middle east" once upon a time, to get another take on the situation. I come back from the restroom, and there you are. . Serious beetlejuicing.

What is your take on the situation?
 
that mosque seems very new, i think it isnt as old as the jewish things in the city.

pretty obvious jeruzalem is judaism

In 1927, a powerful earthquake damaged the mosque and during renovations, archaeologists analyzed the structure. They found beams make from cedar from Lebanon and cypress wood dating as far back as the 9th century, B.C., around the time of King Solomon, who had used those very materials to build the first Jewish temple.

The excavations also uncovered a Jewish ritual bath from the second temple and a mosaic believed to be a part of a Byzantine church.
 
when jews compromised and gave half of jerusalem to arabs thye refused and wnet to war. jews won that war. with each passing day jews are less in need of a peace treaty! because through their action they are safer than they were 5 years ago safer than in the 90's. with eahc passing day live in israel gets safer and safer

Good for them.

Has nothing to do with my post.
 
Because it hurts every desired goal we have in the ME. I do not care what is best for Israel. I care what is best for the US. Israel already receives massive amounts of support from the US, this will not move the needle for our alliance.

However it does move the needle for our other ME relations. A strong Saudi led alliance that counters Iran and it's growing alliance is what's best for the US. A strengthening Israel/Saudi alliance is best for the US. Efforts on both are happening now.

I see this hurting both of those efforts. I see little to no gain.

Did anyone even mention all this wiping Israel off the map stuff?
The only reason that I can see that you don't believe the embassy should be in the city that both Israel and the US recognize as the capital of their country is that you think some people in the region will be pissed off about it. If those people are pissed off about it the only reason I can imagine for that is they hold out hope that Jerusalem will not permanently belong to the Jews. I think it is right and reasonable for us to signal that control of Jerusalem is not a negotiating point. I believe that ultimately this move will not be seen as the negative you are expecting by reasonable people. Meanwhile, unreasonable people are going to get pissed off by this, but if it wasn't for this they would just find something else to get pissed off about instead.
 


this punk needed to be shot down om the spot the moment he entered the building! to bad this did not happen in amsterdam or Texas or other liberty loving states!

the police let him enter the building armed with a hammer, creaming how he is gonna kill and exterminate jews!
It actually looks to me like the police handled that situation very appropriately. Good for them!
 
The only reason that I can see that you don't believe the embassy should be in the city that both Israel and the US recognize as the capital of their country is that you think some people in the region will be pissed off about it. If those people are pissed off about it the only reason I can imagine for that is they hold out hope that Jerusalem will not permanently belong to the Jews. I think it is right and reasonable for us to signal that control of Jerusalem is not a negotiating point. I believe that ultimately this move will not be seen as the negative you are expecting by reasonable people. Meanwhile, unreasonable people are going to get pissed off by this, but if it wasn't for this they would just find something else to get pissed off about instead.

lol. In short reasonable = agreeing with you. Your takes here have shown either an extreme lack of knowledge about the situation or a total lack of letting that information seep into your posts.

Basically your response is "lawl u mad" to the middle east. SMH lol

Come on man...
 
Jerusalem was the original prayer direction before Mecca to Muslims. How is it not holy to Muslims again? I think this is an empty suggestion.

Then again, I don’t care one bit who holds what holy land. There is no such thing as a holy land to me. Just holy beliefs, ideals.
 
Jerusalem was the original prayer direction before Mecca to Muslims. How is it not holy to Muslims again? I think this is an empty suggestion.

Then again, I don’t care one bit who holds what holy land. There is no such thing as a holy land to me. Just holy beliefs, ideals.
ooh relly suddenly the place and only place on earth where jews cna built a temple(not to be confused with synagoge) just happens to be 1000's years later is the exact same place that is holy to islam? gtfo islamism is all about domination, rule the world, take over a territory and make the holy/important places your own by building a mosque!

IT IS WHAT THEY DO!!!!!!!!!!!! recewntly they just did it in then hague, they are all doing it over europe searching for buildings on the market that have been churches and synagoges! they ar elike dogs pissing on trees!
 
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