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Hood traded to Cleveland for Crowder; Johnson to Sacramento

If Crowder plays as well for us as he did in Boston this is a win. I agree that Hood most likely would have walked and as others have said I believe our system is a better fit for Jae. We need another tough guy who isn't afraid of doing the dirty work and probably won't miss six games with a bruise.
 
kabenac said:
Most people whining about Crowder (mainly in the deadline thread) because he's having an off-year in dumpster-fire Cleveland. Enjoy the crow.

And it's funny to me not one person on this board has mentioned Crowder's defense VS Hood's....
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People had high hopes of landing a first round pick. The Jazz really like Jae so I'm not surprised they thought it was a good deal .
 
freakazoid said:
There was likely a 1% chance of Hood walking for nothing. There is very little money for FA this year, which is why sweet Lou took a deal for 8 m a year. Utah likely could have signed Hood pretty cheaply. All things considered, this trade has the possibility of being good or slightly bad, but not some disaster.

If nothing else, Utah traded for the guy who broke Haywood's ankle. So that's a plus.
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I think 1% is much lower than it actually is. We will see. I wont be shocked if he gets 15 million per year plus on his next deal.
 
freakazoid said:
Crowder hasn't had a good year, but a year ago he was considered one of the best contracts in the league. Utah is likely a better situation for him than Cleveland, so if he can revive himself somewhat, he still could bring back a decent pick in the offseason, or Utah could just keep him.

I was hoping for a decent pick coming back, but this isn't bad. Of all the players that were rumored to come back in a Hood trade, Crowder was really the only one worth consideration.

Also, for anyone who wants to complain about this move, you better not be one of the dweebs who was booing Hood. I think there's a possibility that Hood requested a trade and this was the best DL could do at this point in time.

In the future, I hope Jazz fans learn to keep their ****ing mouths shut when they feel like booing a player.
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Hood doesn't have the clout to "demand a trade." He's going into RFA, and he can choose to pout or not try, but he knows he'll lose money if he does. The Jazz had ALL the leverage with him. To me, this signifies that the Jazz FO decided that Hood's downsides (inconsistency, inefficiency (low free throw and assist rate) and injury proneness) were not worth what it would have required to keep him in RFA notwithstanding his obvious offensive talents.

As for the booing, if his ego is that fragile that he wants out for getting booed one time for playing like *****, well then ...
 
fishonjazz said:
do we get a draft pick?
I have always like crowder so im happy with the trade but think we should get a pick as well for helping them get rid of rose.

Does this free up some minutes for AB?
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It frees up minutes for Royce. And Exum when he comes back.

I don't want Burks getting minutes. He's not good.
 
The real winning trade of the day. We traded a guy who misses games for bruises and cause he often poops his pants. And we got a guy who is a perfect fit. "Hoods not inconsistent though"

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kabenac said:
Most people whining about Crowder (mainly in the deadline thread) because he's having an off-year in dumpster-fire Cleveland. Enjoy the crow.

And it's funny to me not one person on this board has mentioned Crowder's defense VS Hood's....
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Had Boston thrown in Crowder for the Hayward deal, Jazzfandom would have been ecstatic. I'm one who thinks (hopes) Cleveland was an aberration and the Crowder we're getting is the Boston Crowder who was pretty damned good on a very team friendly salary.

Cleveland was such a dumpster fire, and Crowder clearly had no place or role there, I don't think you can use that as a yardstick to judge this deal.
 
JustTheTip said:
It frees up minutes for Royce. And Exum when he comes back.

I don't want Burks getting minutes. He's not good.
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Royce seems like more of a 3/4 than a 2 to me. Listed as a small forward. Hood more of a shooting guard imo (as is burks). I guess we will see what happens.
Either way I like the trade.
 
jimmy eat jazz said:
Hood doesn't have the clout to "demand a trade." He's going into RFA, and he can choose to pout or not try, but he knows he'll lose money if he does. The Jazz had ALL the leverage with him. To me, this signifies that the Jazz FO decided that Hood's downsides (inconsistency, inefficiency (low free throw and assist rate) and injury proneness) were not worth what it would have required to keep him in RFA notwithstanding his obvious offensive talents.

As for the booing, if his ego is that fragile that he wants out for getting booed one time for playing like *****, well then ...
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Clout? Are you ****ing kidding me? Enes Kanter ring any bells? Utah doesn't want players who don't want to be here. It's not good for team chemistry.

As for your comments about the booing, you'd have to be an idiot not to have noticed Mitchell's reaction to that. Other players see how their buddies are treated. That kind of attitude kinda makes some fans deserve to have their stars walk away.
 
fishonjazz said:
Royce seems like more of a 3/4 than a 2 to me. Listed as a small forward. Hood more of a shooting guard imo (as is burks). I guess we will see what happens.
Either way I like the trade.
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Lol.

Royce is a wing. He's not playing the 4. Dude is 215-220 pounds. He's a wing, just like Burks is, just like Hood is.
 
kabenac said:
Most people whining about Crowder (mainly in the deadline thread) because he's having an off-year in dumpster-fire Cleveland. Enjoy the crow.

And it's funny to me not one person on this board has mentioned Crowder's defense VS Hood's....
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Yep, Cleveland had a ****** offense, and poor defense. If we can get the Boston version of Crowder (lock down defender, good spot up shooter and rebounder) we came out way ahead.

My biggest issue with Hood is his lack of passing (seemed to slow down the offense) and his inconsistency on both ends. I personally like Crowder better.
freakazoid said:
There was likely a 1% chance of Hood walking for nothing. There is very little money for FA this year, which is why sweet Lou took a deal for 8 m a year. Utah likely could have signed Hood pretty cheaply. All things considered, this trade has the possibility of being good or slightly bad, but not some disaster.

If nothing else, Utah traded for the guy who broke Haywood's ankle. So that's a plus.
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We'll see what Hood gets in the offseason. I personally like Crowder better. I think in the long run this was a good trade for the Jazz.

I also wasn't a huge Hood fan. He was inconsistent on both ends, and I feel like he didn't look to pass (Iso Joe, who I also think of as slowing down an offense averaged more assists per minute than Hood. And he gets hurt, a lot.
 
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freakazoid said:
Crowder hasn't had a good year, but a year ago he was considered one of the best contracts in the league. Utah is likely a better situation for him than Cleveland, so if he can revive himself somewhat, he still could bring back a decent pick in the offseason, or Utah could just keep him.

I was hoping for a decent pick coming back, but this isn't bad. Of all the players that were rumored to come back in a Hood trade, Crowder was really the only one worth consideration.

Also, for anyone who wants to complain about this move, you better not be one of the dweebs who was booing Hood. I think there's a possibility that Hood requested a trade and this was the best DL could do at this point in time.

In the future, I hope Jazz fans learn to keep their ****ing mouths shut when they feel like booing a player.
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If Hood was that butt hurt about being boo’ed one time at a home game, oh well. I agree with you- the boo’ing was moronic, but Utah is far from a hard place to be an NBA player.

I like the deal for two reasons: We didn’t let Hood walk for nothing and we got a player that I think will fit seamlessly into Utah’s Defensive culture.
 
JustTheTip said:
Lol.

Royce is a wing. He's not playing the 4. Dude is 215-220 pounds. He's a wing, just like Burks is, just like Hood is.
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ok. I have seen many people talk about him as a small ball 4 but whatever.
 
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