2011 draft.....

[Elizah Huge]

The Wolves will want more than Bell or Tomic to allow us to move up.

How do you know that? Come on their the Timberwolves, they have David Kahn as their GM anything is possible with them. Then What about this trade, Jazz trade the #12 pick and #3 pick to the Timberwolves for the #20 pick and #2 pick.

Jazz get D-Will³ and the #20 pick, T-Wolves get Kanter and the #12 pick.

 

[NCJazz]

How do you know that? Come on their the Timberwolves, they have David Kahn as their GM anything is possible with them. Then What about this trade, Jazz trade the #12 pick and #3 pick to the Timberwolves for the #20 pick and #2 pick.

Jazz get D-Will³ and the #20 pick, T-Wolves get Kanter and the #12 pick.

If they really dont want DWILLII this is more plausible, but a lot of teams will be talking to the TWolves about the 2nd pick. Would this be the best they can get. Also many say they want a vet.

 

[BENTLEY]

The Jazz can't lose at the 3. They take either Dwill2 or Kanter.

If the wolves trade down past the Jazz' 3rd pick they won't get either so the 3rd pick is why trading with the Jazz is more enticing than someone else. And if they get Bell, who they've said they want, then they pick up that asset. It might be nice to be rid of Bell. I was surprised he didn't do better for the Jazz last year, and then pouted about it. tsk tsk.

But again, the Jazz can't lose. Just draft whoever falls.

 

[Elizah Huge]

If they really dont want DWILLII this is more plausible, but a lot of teams will be talking to the TWolves about the 2nd pick. Would this be the best they can get. Also many say they want a vet.

If they want a vet how about Jazz get D-Will³ and the #20 pick, T-Wolves get Kanter, Raja Bell, the #12 pick. They want Enes Kanter, they don't want to take him at #2 and they want a veteran or a asset so we trade the #3 pick and Raja Bell or/and Ante Tomic for the #2 pick.

 

[CALJAZZFAN]

These are the three trades I would be down with between the Jazz and Timberwolves, considering the T-Wolves want to trade down from the #2 pick to a pick or two to get Kanter and some veteran help/pieces while the other team would get D-Will³.

Jazz trade the #12 pick and #3 pick to the Timberwolves for the #20 pick and #2 pick.

Jazz trade Raja Bell and the #3 pick to the Timberwolves for the #2 pick.

Jazz trade Ante Tomic and the #3 pick to the Timberwolves for the #2 pick.

The only downside from getting D-Will³ is the Jazz wouldn't pick Chris Singleton at #12 or he wouldn't be available at #20.

No offense, but why would we trade our 3 and 12 for their 2 and 20. We have a win win with the 3rd pick. We don't need the 2nd pick. Plus, 12 may get us a good player, 20 will probably not.

 

[BENTLEY]

No offense, but why would we trade our 3 and 12 for their 2 and 20. We have a win win with the 3rd pick. We don't need the 2nd pick. Plus, 12 may get us a good player, 20 will probably not.

Yep. 2 or 3, the Jazz still get one of the top players in this draft.
And I think a good player will still be there at 20, but more options will be there at 12.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Actually, I am in the minority here, but I think the Jazz should draft Brandon Knight at #3 regardless if Enes Kanter is available or not. Now if D-Will³ is available that is a different story and the Jazz should definitely draft him if he falls to #3.

History repeats itself, Derrick Rose, Tyreke Evans, John Wall, and now Brandon Knight. I am not saying Knight is on the other three guys level, but I do believe he will be in a year or two. All of John Callipari's recent point guards have been great nba players, Rose and Evans won rookie of the year and Wall was the runner-up this year next to Blake Griffin.

All four of these guys had their weaknesses coming out of collge:

Derrick Rose - Needed to develop an outside shot

Tyreke Evans - Was a tweener is he a point guard or a shooting guard?

John Wall - Needed to develop an outside shot

Brandon Knight - Needs to gain weight and some more muscle

 

[kabenac]

I think, barring a trade down, we'll be drafting either D-Will (if he slips) or Kanter. With our second pick in the lottery - who knows? I could see us drafting a PG with the second pick if we draft D-Will or Kanter with the first...

 

[Fishsticks]

Actually, I am in the minority here, but I think the Jazz should draft Brandon Knight at #3 regardless if Enes Kanter is available or not. Now if D-Will³ is available that is a different story and the Jazz should definitely draft him if he falls to #3.

History repeats itself, Derrick Rose, Tyreke Evans, John Wall, and now Brandon Knight. I am not saying Knight is on the other three guys level, but I do believe he will be in a year or two. All of John Callipari's recent point guards have been great nba players, Rose and Evans won rookie of the year and Wall was the runner-up this year next to Blake Griffin.

All four of these guys had their weaknesses coming out of collge:

Derrick Rose - Needed to develop an outside shot

Tyreke Evans - Was a tweener is he a point guard or a shooting guard?

John Wall - Needed to develop an outside shot

Brandon Knight - Needs to gain weight and some more muscle

You are so spinless. Negging me just hours ago for liking knight over kanter. You bring some weak *** **** bro.

 

[BENTLEY]

Actually, I am in the minority here, but I think the Jazz should draft Brandon Knight at #3 regardless if Enes Kanter is available or not. Now if D-Will³ is available that is a different story and the Jazz should definitely draft him if he falls to #3.

History repeats itself, Derrick Rose, Tyreke Evans, John Wall, and now Brandon Knight. I am not saying Knight is on the other three guys level, but I do believe he will be in a year or two. All of John Callipari's recent point guards have been great nba players, Rose and Evans won rookie of the year and Wall was the runner-up this year next to Blake Griffin.

All four of these guys had their weaknesses coming out of collge:

Derrick Rose - Needed to develop an outside shot

Tyreke Evans - Was a tweener is he a point guard or a shooting guard?

John Wall - Needed to develop an outside shot

Brandon Knight - Needs to gain weight and some more muscle

I'm in the Kanter > Knight camp but it can feel sometimes like I'm in the minority. It's probably pretty even. I'm aware of many Knight supporters, so don't feel too lonely. And while it's true what you say about Calipari's PGs, Calipari said he'd draft Kanter number 1. So that seems significant, although some still disregard it.

 

[Zerol]

Why D-Will³??

 

[JohnStockalypse]

Why D-Will³??

If we somehow by the grace of God land Williams I really hope people don't refer to him as this. Be original people! The 'First Initial First Syllable of Last Name' nick name is so ****in played out.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Why D-Will³??

Instead of D-Will2 or D-Will 2.0, somebody else made it up, but D-Will³ because he says he is a small forward which is a three depending on what you call it.

 

[BENTLEY]

Yeah, but for now Dwill2 (or 3) is easy. It's not like he's on the Jazz yet or anything.

We'll get creative later.

 

[cowhide]

I would take Kanter over Knight. PGs are easier to find than PF/C. I don't know who I would pick if I had to decide between Kanter and Williams so I would rather stay at 3. There is really no reason to move up to 2 unless the Jazz want a specific player over another and they know he won't be there at 2.

I know everyone thinks Cleveland is going to take Irving but I am not 100 percent sure they will. I wouldn't if I were in their situation. I mean Irving has several questions marks coming in the NBA. If I were Cleveland I would go big first then I would take Kemba or Knight at 4. There isn't that much difference between Irving, Walker or Knight in my humble opinion. They all have things to prove and they all have different strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Revolution 9]

You don't give up a future lotto pick to move up one spot. Especially for a guy who might just drop in your lap anyway.

Dwill isnt going to fall into our lap. Let's be honest.
This GS pick might not even be a lottery pick. GS has a decent roster if they can get healthy.
We could easily get a 15-18 pick next year. While not bad, that's not much to give up if you get the 2nd best player in the draft.

Not saying we make the trade, but if Dwill3 is our guy then we need to go get him.

 

[trigg3r]

Dwill isnt going to fall into our lap. Let's be honest.
This GS pick might not even be a lottery pick. GS has a decent roster if they can get healthy.
We could easily get a 15-18 pick next year. While not bad, that's not much to give up if you get the 2nd best player in the draft.

Not saying we make the trade, but if Dwill3 is our guy then we need to go get him.

I disagree. Right now a fair projection of the Warriors final record is anywhere from the 8-14 range. Barring a change in the CBA that forces players to play 2 years out of high school before being eligible for the draft, you have a pretty valuable pick there. Draft Express has the mock 2012 draft where Austin Rivers falls all the way down to 10. I know things change and certain guys will raise their stock etc. I am just saying that with the pull outs from this years draft along with the incoming Freshman class, we are going to have a solid pick next year if the Warriors fall into that range. Who knows, maybe the Warriors will be terrible next year and we don't get their pick.

 

[The Thriller]

Dwill isnt going to fall into our lap. Let's be honest.
This GS pick might not even be a lottery pick. GS has a decent roster if they can get healthy.
We could easily get a 15-18 pick next year. While not bad, that's not much to give up if you get the 2nd best player in the draft.

Not saying we make the trade, but if Dwill3 is our guy then we need to go get him.

There's no way the Jazz crack the top 5 picks in 2011.

There's also no way Cleveland wins the lottery either.

Oh wait...

 

[Revolution 9]

I disagree. Right now a fair projection of the Warriors final record is anywhere from the 8-14 range. Barring a change in the CBA that forces players to play 2 years out of high school before being eligible for the draft, you have a pretty valuable pick there. Draft Express has the mock 2012 draft where Austin Rivers falls all the way down to 10. I know things change and certain guys will raise their stock etc. I am just saying that with the pull outs from this years draft along with the incoming Freshman class, we are going to have a solid pick next year if the Warriors fall into that range. Who knows, maybe the Warriors will be terrible next year and we don't get their pick.

Rivers won't fall to 10 dude. Get a grip he is out. You know that won't happen at all. There is no way he drops out of the top 7 unless he is a bust,
and no one thinks he is.

Yes, we may get 8-12 it's possible, but it's not a sure thing. The warriors have some talent if you are being honest. It's true that hasn't stopped them from sucking for a few years, so we shall see.

If Dwill3 is offered for the GS pick, that is the sure thing, if you like him. You know exactly the person you are getting. The person most people have listed as the second best player in the draft. That's more valuable to me that a lot of iffs and maybes (the only thing we know is we aren't getting one the top
ranked studs of 2012).

Remember they could end up in the top of the lottery, and we get no pick at all.

I just feel like the odds are against us getting someone really good.
Yes, we may get a good player, but it's not a given. If that pick was unprotected however I would lean highly towards keeping it.

 

[jazzrule]

Why D-Will³??

Good question- Lets see if I can answer it. A major weakness for last years Jazz was three point shooting. D'Will is one of the best 3 point shooters coming out. Another major weakness for the Jazz was rebounding. He averaged close to 8 rebounds per game last year and got 13 rebounds in eliminating Duke from the tournament. A player that gets to the line to shoot free throws helps your scoring, but also puts the others teams players on the bench due to foul trouble. D'Will lead the nation last year on getting to the free throw line. He puts the ball on the floor and gets fouled. Did I mention he was a great 3 point shooter. He is a great shooter and he was 5-6 from 3 point range against a Duke team who is one of the stingiest teams around on the perimeter! Williams can play 2 positions and will be a matchup nightmare who can play some three, but will do more than fine against PFs too. Imagine him taking a small forward down low and posting him up, with his explosiveness. I