The guy who comps closest to Hayward that I've seen is Troy Brown. Plus his handle and rebounding are better than Hayward's coming out of school.
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LoPo
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Who is an average player who takes about 6 years to develop into a pretty good player but leaves after year 7?
Why are we talking about Hayward?
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The only player in the draft who compares to Hayward is Doncic.
Brown is longer, that's about all he has on Hayward. Hayward was a great rebounder at Butler.
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Because I compared Huerter to being a better shooting Hayward.
Gordon Hayward 6-8 in shoes 211 lbs 6-7.75 wing span 8-7 standing reach 6.9% body fat 20 years old (3/20/90)
Kevin Huerter 6' 7.25'' in shoes 194 lbs 6' 7.5'' wing span 8-6 standing reach 8.60% body fat 19 years old (8/27/98)
Coming out there are very similar players.except Huerter is skinnier but
LoPo
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Hayward sucked. So overrated. I'm so glad we invested so much in 7 years for one series win then a sweep. If that is the goal for this draft, please trade the pick.
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Huerter 32 games played PTS 14.8 RB 5.0 AST 3.4 FG% 50.3 FG3% 41.7 FT% 75.8
Hayward 37 games played PTS 15.5 RB 8.2 ast 1.7 FG% 46.6 FG3% 29.4 FT% 82.9
They had different Jobs on their teams as Hayward played more forward and Huerter more of a guard.
Hayward 37 games played PTS 15.5 RB 8.2 ast 1.7 FG% 46.6 FG3% 29.4 FT% 82.9
They had different Jobs on their teams as Hayward played more forward and Huerter more of a guard.
LoPo
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I want to trade up in the 2nd round because Okogie reminds me of Donovan.
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This guy gets it.
The huge difference is Hayward was much better at driving and drawing contact. He's was a much more natural scorer and tougher player.
I actually agree with the comp. Huerter is far from just a 3 ball shooter. Lots of highlights of him being crafty about getting into the paint and scoring down low.
Besides, comps aren’t saying they are identical players. Recent photos of Huerter bulking up def reminds me of Hayward though...
Huerter is closer to Hood than Hayward, but his body does seem like it can add more weight than Hood. Right now Huerter is a great shooter with some skill off the bounce, but I dont know if he is dynamic scorer.
Yes, like you said, he does more than just shoot, but that's in college. Will his entire skill-set translate (and that skill-set isnt that wide like Hayward's was) and will it expand in the NBA? Thompson's shrunk to what he was really good at and he became elite at those things.
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I’m not a college game watcher. My limited exposure is highlights. What I’ve seen of Huerter, he doesn’t remind me much of Hayward. Donte, on the other hand, looks like Hayward on crack and steroids.
No, he was actually incredibly good and very underrated. Don't be a hater.
Neither of them are like Hayward, but Huerter is a little bit closer just because of the size.
Donte's player archetype is more like current Eric Gordon and Huerter's is more like Thompson. Both are less talented and smaller than either of those guys though.
Gordon Hayward is basically the perfect 3rd star for any team and a great 2nd star. I would do backflips if the Jazz drafted the next Gordon Hayward, I dont really care if it took him 7 years to reach that level. Hayward was a very useful player every year of his career that improved every year in the league. Stop being dumb.
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I wouldn't advise otherwise. Cy points out the injury risk and I am the pioneer on here about that.
My point is that this is a personal decision, with family and coaching staff, and most likely agents influencing.
Haywood is a great example here. He could have declared after his first season but held out. Weaker players with room to grow, who aren't physically ready for the NBA can and do.
LoPo
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Hayward is a good in theory guy. He looks like he's going to be this or he could do that. At the end of the day, I've never seen it.
He doesn't take over games. He doesn't get red hot and hit multiple straight 3's. He isn't a balls to the wall, passionate, hustle guy like PJ Tucker. Hayward is a good comprehensive player who would "seem" to fit in many areas but I haven't seen it yet.
There is a reason why so many fell in love with the team this year. We played with heart. We were a team. You could try to blame Hill, but that's weak just like going to Boston. Hayward never had it. Maybe he becomes an Iguodala type for Boston, but I just don't see it. He is a solid role player on a contender or 3rd option at best.
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He doesn't take over games. He doesn't get red hot and hit multiple straight 3's. He isn't a balls to the wall, passionate, hustle guy like PJ Tucker. Hayward is a good comprehensive player who would "seem" to fit in many areas but I haven't seen it yet.
There is a reason why so many fell in love with the team this year. We played with heart. We were a team. You could try to blame Hill, but that's weak just like going to Boston. Hayward never had it. Maybe he becomes an Iguodala type for Boston, but I just don't see it. He is a solid role player on a contender or 3rd option at best.
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