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Following Potential 2018 Draftees

infection said:
I’ve always felt that the balance beam garbage was because they were looking for something to sell on a pick they were lukewarm about. I think the balance thing became important in retrospect because there wasn’t much you could really say was great. Have a hard time thinking he went in to draft day thinking “you should see this kid on the balance beam!”

I could be wrong, though.
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Nah... they valued it and liked Trey. He’s not awful but I don’t think they had to justify the pick... I think it kept getting mentioned as a “hey we think this guy can be a playmaker” type of thing.

Turns out he can master the balance beam routine but he couldn’t defend an actual balance beam.
 
Catchall said:
If Bradley was a guy they wanted, then making a move to get him was the right move. They made a clear decision and executed. So you have to credit them for that. If Bradley becomes close to the interior defender and rebounder that Steven Adams is, they made a good move. It's relatively easy to pick up backup guards like Josh Hart or Derrick White.
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Yup guys who immediately come in and play solid defense and shoot 40% from 3 their rookie (like hart) are a dime a dozen and can be found super cheap on the FA market while true centers who don’t stretch the floor or protect the paint are all the rage in the nba right now and can’t be found anywhere... gtfo with that... the other stuff is fine... it was a weird pick I don’t have to give them credit until he does something. Adams is a terrible comp. If he learns to shoot he could be a homeless mans pau Gasol.
 
infection said:
I’ve always felt that the balance beam garbage was because they were looking for something to sell on a pick they were lukewarm about. I think the balance thing became important in retrospect because there wasn’t much you could really say was great. Have a hard time thinking he went in to draft day thinking “you should see this kid on the balance beam!”

I could be wrong, though.
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I doubt the Jazz were lukewarm on him. They probably just used the balance thing because it was an interesting tidbit.
 
SCS said:
I was thinking the same. They need outside shooting and that was his last workout before going home to make his decision. I was wondering if he worked out with anyone else before that though.
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I’ll bet SA or Atlanta take him though... LA would be his fallback stop. I don’t think he is on the board when we pick.

I think we choose between KBD and Okobo. I think they really like Jerome Robinson and would find a way to get in the 30s to pick him if he’s still around.
 
SCS said:
I was thinking the same. They need outside shooting and that was his last workout before going home to make his decision. I was wondering if he worked out with anyone else before that though.
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The Lakers have already been rumored to a promise with Mitchell Robinson and Chandler Hutchison. No one really knows. I think for certain though a Lakers promise isn't going to make him shutdown workouts. If he is shutting it down, its someone higher than 25.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think we choose between KBD and Okobo. I think they really like Jerome Robinson and would find a way to get in the 30s to pick him if he’s still around.
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From some of the stuff I've seen from Tony Jones on twitter the Jazz seem to really like Donte Divincenzo, I think they may pick him over KBD or Okobo.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I would say that was a much different situation because:
1. They knew who the Lakers were going to pick because the Lakers are exceedingly stupid
2. They got the Kings 2019 draft pick (top 1 protected)

So there really was 0 risk in their trade. They knew who was going 1 and they knew who was going. If the Jazz trade down to 26 or 30, they really have no idea how is going 21/22/23/24/25/26/27/28/29. It's too risky and the Jazz are too smart. They are going to have someone they really like at 21. They should just draft him because they are a smart team. If someone gives them an unprotected projected lottery pick, then yeah, that would change my mind. A few meh 2nd rounders does not.
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Beside the fact that if you really want another pick, you can buy one most years or trade a future pick. No way Philly keeps all their picks this year. If the 2019 draft is weak and there is a guy you love at 26 then the Jazz should make a move to acquire the 26th pick.
 
If we are trying to get another pick because we really like guys like Okobo, Okobie, Diop, etc, would people (other than Cy of course) think this is conceivable:

Burks, cash, #52 and a future 2nd
for
Carroll and #29
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybwtjr94

Why for Brooklyn - #1 - Burks makes $4 million less than Carroll next season. So we give them cash and save them cash in this deal. The Nets are rebuilding and Burks is 6 years younger. Maybe they think he can turn into a success story like Joe Harris.

Why for us: Carroll immediately becomes part of our rotation. If Favors leaves, he's probably the starter. #29 can be used on one of those guys I listed before.


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cowhide said:
Beside the fact that if you really want another pick, you can buy one most years or trade a future pick. No way Philly keeps all their picks this year. If the 2019 draft is weak and there is a guy you love at 26 then the Jazz should make a move to acquire the 26th pick.
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That was my first suggestion... I’d do it for a few reasons and I think they’d consider it too.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The Lakers have already been rumored to a promise with Mitchell Robinson and Chandler Hutchison. No one really knows. I think for certain though a Lakers promise isn't going to make him shutdown workouts. If he is shutting it down, its someone higher than 25.
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I thought both Chicago and porty promised Hutchison.
 
LoPo said:
If we are trying to get another pick because we really like guys like Okobo, Okobie, Diop, etc, would people (other than Cy of course) think this is conceivable:

Burks, cash, #52 and a future 2nd
for
Carroll and #29
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybwtjr94

Why for Brooklyn - #1 - Burks makes $4 million less than Carroll next season. So we give them cash and save them cash in this deal. The Nets are rebuilding and Burks is 6 years younger. Maybe they think he can turn into a success story like Joe Harris.

Why for us: Carroll immediately becomes part of our rotation. If Favors leaves, he's probably the starter. #29 can be used on one of those guys I listed before.


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I know u love trades but man you really need to make them less lopsided for the jazz if you want positive feedback. AB for Carroll straight up is fair... we likely need to add a second... why do they add a first here? Would you propose that if you were a nets fan?
 
LoPo said:
If we are trying to get another pick because we really like guys like Okobo, Okobie, Diop, etc, would people (other than Cy of course) think this is conceivable:

Burks, cash, #52 and a future 2nd
for
Carroll and #29
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybwtjr94

Why for Brooklyn - #1 - Burks makes $4 million less than Carroll next season. So we give them cash and save them cash in this deal. The Nets are rebuilding and Burks is 6 years younger. Maybe they think he can turn into a success story like Joe Harris.

Why for us: Carroll immediately becomes part of our rotation. If Favors leaves, he's probably the starter. #29 can be used on one of those guys I listed before.


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No wonder Cy rips you.
 
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