Jazz Free Agency Summer of 2018

[infection]

Here's my old trade:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydxgvdtd

Ignore that it failed. It's assuming our NG contacts remain NG. We guarantee them and the deal works. We get JJJ. Other picks and assets would need to trade hands, particularly to San Antonio, but that's the crux of it. We'd be throwing in a pick or two somewhere.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I dont think PG is going to sign here but if he cares about winning I think we are his second best choice right now, assuming he wants to get paid max or near max as well. We beat OKC with him on it. So with PG we are obviously a much better team. His only better option are if Lakers land Lebron.

I think the Jazz with PG are the 2nd best team in the NBA next season just behind GS. Depending on how the Lakers dream team goes.

 

[LoPo]

 

[Jingled]

Would signing PG be the biggest FA signing ever for Jazz?

Obviously

 

[str8line]

The downside for PG if he joins LA or any other contender with a bonafide superstar is that he won't get as much of the credit for their success, and the pressure would be huge if things went south; and he'd have to deal with Lebron. With the Jazz he would get a ton of credit for building, not buying into a championship, and he'd be on a low-key team.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Whats the best 76ers can offer? Simmons and what else. Would Spurs want Simmons? Since Lebron and Simmons cant really play together.

 

[LoPo]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/the-lakers-dream-scenario-is-within-reach/

"The belief in NBA circles is the Spurs seem open to the idea of a Leonard trade, but that the cost is going to be crazy high and would likely require a third team taking on the contract of Luol Deng.

It’s being speculated by league sources that some combination of forward Brandon Ingram, guard Josh Hart and forward Kyle Kuzma would be a starting point on a deal. League sources also said it would likely take several draft picks to make something work, as those picks would have to go to a third team to absorb Deng and create a sizable Traded Player Exception for the Spurs."

 

[LoPo]

Whats the best 76ers can offer? Simmons and what else. Would Spurs want Simmons? Since Lebron and Simmons cant really play together.

The Sixers have Covington, Saric, Luwawu, Korkmaz, Miami's unprotected 2021 pick and their own 1st rounders.

They aren't going to trade Simmons or Embiid.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The Sixers have Covington, Saric, Luwawu, Korkmaz, Miami's unprotected 2021 pick and their own 1st rounders.

They aren't going to trade Simmons or Embiid.

And fultz

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If they route Kuzma our way I will take Deng... we give an unprotected 2019 1st (we won't be bad) and AB to SA. I would rather have Kuzma if Im SA but if they have Ingram maybe they'd want other pieces that fit better... Send them Tony Bradley too.

 

[LoPo]

So Denver and LA are talking a deal built around Denver sending an expiring to LA with a 1st rounder. Then I assume LA will send the expiring and Ingram, Kuzma, Hart, and other picks to San Antonio. (But LA is still stuck with Deng so how can they afford PG and LBJ too?)

In an attempt to sweeten the pot, multiple sources said the Lakers and Denver Nuggets are discussing a potential deal that would see Los Angeles take back bad money for a draft pick. The Nuggets, who will be deep into the luxury tax after re-signing restricted free agent center Nikola Jokic next month, have about $34 million in expiring contracts for Kenneth Faried, Darrell Arthur and Wilson Chandler to send out in possible deals. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...says-so/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.22ec6e46c7bb

Wouldn't my trade just make more sense?

Lakers get Kawhi and Burks
Spurs get Ingram, Hart, Bradley, our lottery protected 2019 1st, picks from LA
We get Deng and Kuzma

Yes, in this scenario, San Antonio does not get Kuzma. However, San Antonio does get Bradley and over $10 million in savings this year doing this deal. If Kuzma is key to San Antonio, my idea doesn't work. If San Antonio values the picks, space, Ingram, Hart and Bradley, seems like a fair deal.

 

[checkbookdoc]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/the-lakers-dream-scenario-is-within-reach/

"The belief in NBA circles is the Spurs seem open to the idea of a Leonard trade, but that the cost is going to be crazy high and would likely require a third team taking on the contract of Luol Deng.."

I would be so excited if the Jazz were able to be the team that takes on Deng if either Ball or Kuzma were included. I think both of those players would fit into the long-term plans of this Jazz team really well and could maximize the players and system we currently have. I would be open to including additional assets to make this trade happen.

Also, having Lavar Ball come to SLC would be amazing entertainment and help brighten the spotlight on the Jazz team/players!

 

[mellow]

And fultz

They fixed Kuwhy, maybe the spurs can fix Markelle?

 

[LoPo]

When I've been talking about using cap space the last couple weeks, this is the type opportunity I've been talking about. We signed guys like Thabo, Jerekbo and Udoh to non-guaranteed deals for a reason. We could absorb a guy like Deng without it really destroying our goal because we can still keep Favors and Exum if we wanted to spend the money since we have their Bird Rights.

Whether or not the Lakers are able to secure Kawhi, we should be trying to trade for Deng and Kuzma OR Deng and Ingram right now. As I'm typing this, we should be working on it.

 

[Ron Mexico]

The Sixers have Covington, Saric, Luwawu, Korkmaz, Miami's unprotected 2021 pick and their own 1st rounders.

They aren't going to trade Simmons or Embiid.

They cant have Simmons and Lebron play together. Simmons is useless off the ball and you are not going to play the best player in the NBA off ball either. Plus those other assets are meh at best in comparison to Lakers and Boston.

 

[LoPo]

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com...akers-sixers-spurs-kawhi-leonard-lebron-james
One team source says preliminary discussions with San Antonio revealed the Spurs have strong interest in a package involving burgeoning forwards Dario Saric and Robert Covington as well as a future first-round pick. A potential, more serious offer that Philadelphia is weighing internally includes Saric and Covington and the 2021 Miami Heat unprotected first-round pick the Sixers obtained in their draft-night deal with the Phoenix Suns.

That's a pretty strong offer. If Philly does that trade, they still have to shed Bayless and Fultz to afford LeBron.

 

[TheStormofWar]

When I've been talking about using cap space the last couple weeks, this is the type opportunity I've been talking about. We signed guys like Thabo, Jerekbo and Udoh to non-guaranteed deals for a reason. We could absorb a guy like Deng without it really destroying our goal because we can still keep Favors and Exum if we wanted to spend the money since we have their Bird Rights.

Whether or not the Lakers are able to secure Kawhi, we should be trying to trade for Deng and Kuzma OR Deng and Ingram right now. As I'm typing this, we should be working on it.

I had to check into this. When a player is renounced, the team loses their bird rights. They can sign a one year deal to re-establish rights, but only with available room. Long story short, if we renounce Favors and Exum to use the cap to eat a player contract, we probably won't resign them. So the question becomes is eating Deng's deal to get Kuzma worth losing Favors and Exum as well?

 

[LoPo]

I had to check into this. When a player is renounced, the team loses their bird rights. They can sign a one year deal to re-establish rights, but only with available room. Long story short, if we renounce Favors and Exum to use the cap to eat a player contract, we probably won't resign them.

Everybody wants to do a trade right now because LeBron has to make his decision tomorrow, before the beginning of the new financial year. If I'm not mistaken, we could make the trade below right now which means we go into next year with everything still in hand. We should have all player rights. I'm not talking about making this deal after July 6. My trade works now.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9q2azqo

Then we use a trade exception to get Kuzma. That part of the deal could be done in the new budget year.

Unless there is something I don't know about, we could make this trade right now.

 

[Jazz4ever]

I had to check into this. When a player is renounced, the team loses their bird rights. They can sign a one year deal to re-establish rights, but only with available room. Long story short, if we renounce Favors and Exum to use the cap to eat a player contract, we probably won't resign them. So the question becomes is eating Deng's deal to get Kuzma worth losing Favors and Exum as well?

Prob. Kuzma plays a higher position of need (SF/PF) and is super cheap for the next 3 years. If someone offers Exum 12m a year and Favors 14m a year they are lost assets anyways.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Everybody wants to do a trade right now because LeBron has to make his decision tomorrow, before the beginning of the new financial year. If I'm not mistaken, we could make the trade below right now which means we go into next year with everything still in hand. We should have all player rights. I'm not talking about making this deal after July 6. My trade works now.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9q2azqo

Then we use a trade exception to get Kuzma. That part of the deal could be done in the new budget year.

Unless there is something I don't know about, we could make this trade right now.

Okay, that makes sense then.