Game Of Thrones

[LogGrad98]

Jon deserved to kill the night king. I liked how they did it, but magic flying Arya evading all the other white walkers and suddenly being at least 8 feet in the air (he caught her on her way down) was plot device extraordinaire. For continuity it would have been much more effective to have a final stand between the white walkers and the key players, especially the wildlings and the night watch guys, in which jon kills him with long claw.

And I agree it all feels very rushed. It feels like a book that the author carried really well until the end when he couldn't come up with a good ending so he just buttons up all the loose ends. Not very satisfying and not very good writing.

 

[Zombie]

Jon deserved to kill the night king. I liked how they did it, but magic flying Arya evading all the other white walkers and suddenly being at least 8 feet in the air (he caught her on her way down) was plot device extraordinaire. For continuity it would have been much more effective to have a final stand between the white walkers and the key players, especially the wildlings and the night watch guys, in which jon kills him with long claw.

And I agree it all feels very rushed. It feels like a book that the author carried really well until the end when he couldn't come up with a good ending so he just buttons up all the loose ends. Not very satisfying and not very good writing.

A final showdown with the white walker leaders and a handful of valyrian steel wielding baddasses would have been pretty cool to see. I also agree with Archie that their strategy was dog ****. What's the point of sending out your riders to be massacred and join the army of the dead at the start of the battle? Why only one trench? They've long known fire is the most effective way to kill wights so why were there no buckets of pitch or oil on the walls? These seem like the kind of ideas that a master strategist like Tyrion might have thought of. It's a shame what's become of his character, he serves so little purpose now. Compare his brilliant strategy at the battle of blackwater to this cluster ****. Smh.

 

[Stoked]

Also true. However, after Hardhome the show creator's interview mentioned the Night King's focus on Jon/Aegon.

I didn’t know that

 

[Stoked]

Jon deserved to kill the night king. I liked how they did it, but magic flying Arya evading all the other white walkers and suddenly being at least 8 feet in the air (he caught her on her way down) was plot device extraordinaire. For continuity it would have been much more effective to have a final stand between the white walkers and the key players, especially the wildlings and the night watch guys, in which jon kills him with long claw.

And I agree it all feels very rushed. It feels like a book that the author carried really well until the end when he couldn't come up with a good ending so he just buttons up all the loose ends. Not very satisfying and not very good writing.

Same I was hoping Jon showed up flanked by Brienne, Jaime, Sam, Podric, Arya, Davos, Hound, Greyworm, Jorah and Tormund. Have some battle royal action going on.

 

[Stoked]

A final showdown with the white walker leaders and a handful of valyrian steel wielding baddasses would have been pretty cool to see. I also agree with Archie that their strategy was dog ****. What's the point of sending out your riders to be massacred and join the army of the dead at the start of the battle? Why only one trench? They've long known fire is the most effective way to kill wights so why were there no buckets of pitch or oil on the walls? These seem like the kind of ideas that a master strategist like Tyrion might have thought of. It's a shame what's become of his character, he serves so little purpose now. Compare his brilliant strategy at the battle of blackwater to this cluster ****. Smh.

Right, coat all the land around Winterfell in oil and have the dragons like that ****er up right before the front rows of the charge reach the pikes. Archers laying down constant arrows and the catapults shooting from cover. Dragons continually doing runs.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Jon deserved to kill the night king. I liked how they did it, but magic flying Arya evading all the other white walkers and suddenly being at least 8 feet in the air (he caught her on her way down) was plot device extraordinaire. For continuity it would have been much more effective to have a final stand between the white walkers and the key players, especially the wildlings and the night watch guys, in which jon kills him with long claw.

And I agree it all feels very rushed. It feels like a book that the author carried really well until the end when he couldn't come up with a good ending so he just buttons up all the loose ends. Not very satisfying and not very good writing.

The thing is, they made the NK too OP so he kind of had to go down the way he did (if his character isn't willing to engage in an ego fight with Snow), by complete surprise.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Exactly. She wouldn’t have had to run and hide all over the place. She could’ve just walked out of the dining room/living area. Instead, she’s hiding under a table.

Playing dead isnt an established trope in GOT against the undead. No one even knows to do that. You'd have a complaint if it where set in modern time where people are aware of zombie cliches

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You act like you know all about dragons even though you've only seen a few episodes of game of thrones. How do you know they can't just spew endless amounts of fire, or use it in flight, you don't know. Let's be realistic, of course, when we are talking about dragons. Since they are, you know, hyper realistic.

Because it's not possible. They are a creature who has to make energy to expell it. No one has an unlimited source of energy. It's common sense, which GOT has.

 

[Zombie]

It's common sense, which GOT has.

Ehhhh.

 

[Miggs]

Cy isn’t limited to arguing in just basketballs threads.

 

[LogGrad98]

A final showdown with the white walker leaders and a handful of valyrian steel wielding baddasses would have been pretty cool to see. I also agree with Archie that their strategy was dog ****. What's the point of sending out your riders to be massacred and join the army of the dead at the start of the battle? Why only one trench? They've long known fire is the most effective way to kill wights so why were there no buckets of pitch or oil on the walls? These seem like the kind of ideas that a master strategist like Tyrion might have thought of. It's a shame what's become of his character, he serves so little purpose now. Compare his brilliant strategy at the battle of blackwater to this cluster ****. Smh.

Yes they have totally neutered Tyrion. Might be the biggest travesty in the show.

 

[LogGrad98]

Because it's not possible. They are a creature who has to make energy to expell it. No one has an unlimited source of energy. It's common sense, which GOT has.

I disagree. About GOT having common sense. Since they ran out of material from the books their common sense is gone.

 

[LogGrad98]

The thing is, they made the NK too OP so he kind of had to go down the way he did (if his character isn't willing to engage in an ego fight with Snow), by complete surprise.

It would have been better and far more cinematic to have a battle Royale type showdown like stoked said. White walkers in the Grove, bloody and exhausted heroes. Lose a few in the battle to make it real, like jorah, briene, have Melisandre actually fighting and die in the battle, maybe her magic necklace explodes in one final Blaze if glory taking out a big chunk of the horde of the dead to trying to get into the grove. In the end Jon snow and the NK one on one, and then out of nowhere Arya comes, hits him with the dagger. But we find out valyrian steel can hurt him but isn't enough alone, but it's the distraction and opening Jon needs to take off his head. Then it ends.

Tell me that wouldn't have been 1000x better.

 

[yamers]

Ehhh have to say that episode was quite **** for the entire buildup. Piss poor writing.

 

[RJF]

Cy isn’t limited to arguing in just basketballs threads.

It’s all he does. It’s like he’s a teenager that think he knows everything.

 

[Stars Fan]

A final showdown with the white walker leaders and a handful of valyrian steel wielding baddasses would have been pretty cool to see. I also agree with Archie that their strategy was dog ****. What's the point of sending out your riders to be massacred and join the army of the dead at the start of the battle? Why only one trench? They've long known fire is the most effective way to kill wights so why were there no buckets of pitch or oil on the walls? These seem like the kind of ideas that a master strategist like Tyrion might have thought of. It's a shame what's become of his character, he serves so little purpose now. Compare his brilliant strategy at the battle of blackwater to this cluster ****. Smh.

This is also why Cersei using wildfire to off her personal enemies is such a waste. It was being stored by the Maesters (sp?) to be used against the Dead...although most of them had forgotten their duty and purpose. Her double cross also sold out the living, and deprived then of one of their major weapons. It is also another example of the missed opportunities of the writers of the show. If they are not handed the plot by GRRM, they miss the nuance and go for the mellow-drama/cliche. e.g. Lyanna Mormont, the littlest character, taking out a Zombie-Giant? It will be curious to see where the books go from here, but I doubt that he will incorporate all the the plot outcomes in the HBO version.

 

[Stoked]

Because it's not possible. They are a creature who has to make energy to expell it. No one has an unlimited source of energy. It's common sense, which GOT has.

Lmfao. GOT has clearly painted the dragons as being able to spew fire upon command. Even at the end of battles where they used fire extensively. Like the Danys ambush of the Lannister’s.

Lmfao x 2. Goin on about “common sense” in a series with face swapping death gods, dragons and weather controlling, psychic ice zombies.

 

[Stoked]

It would have been better and far more cinematic to have a battle Royale type showdown like stoked said. White walkers in the Grove, bloody and exhausted heroes. Lose a few in the battle to make it real, like jorah, briene, have Melisandre actually fighting and die in the battle, maybe her magic necklace explodes in one final Blaze if glory taking out a big chunk of the horde of the dead to trying to get into the grove. In the end Jon snow and the NK one on one, and then out of nowhere Arya comes, hits him with the dagger. But we find out valyrian steel can hurt him but isn't enough alone, but it's the distraction and opening Jon needs to take off his head. Then it ends.

Tell me that wouldn't have been 1000x better.

Oh I have it! Have Melisandre come banshee screaming out of the night and jump on one of the Ice Knights (not sure what to call the Ice King’s major cronies) and start yelling out that enchantment to light things up with fire. In doing so she intentionally saves Davos and locks eyes with him. Then her and the Ice Knight go up in flames.

Same with some kind of scene with Tormund and Podric dying to save Brienne. So many possibilities.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It would have been better and far more cinematic to have a battle Royale type showdown like stoked said. White walkers in the Grove, bloody and exhausted heroes. Lose a few in the battle to make it real, like jorah, briene, have Melisandre actually fighting and die in the battle, maybe her magic necklace explodes in one final Blaze if glory taking out a big chunk of the horde of the dead to trying to get into the grove. In the end Jon snow and the NK one on one, and then out of nowhere Arya comes, hits him with the dagger. But we find out valyrian steel can hurt him but isn't enough alone, but it's the distraction and opening Jon needs to take off his head. Then it ends.

Tell me that wouldn't have been 1000x better.

It's impossible. They have an unlimited source of dead people to revive to fight for them.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lmfao. GOT has clearly painted the dragons as being able to spew fire upon command. Even at the end of battles where they used fire extensively. Like the Danys ambush of the Lannister’s.

Lmfao x 2. Goin on about “common sense” in a series with face swapping death gods, dragons and weather controlling, psychic ice zombies.

Nah, not really. GOT has common sense and is bound to its universe. Yes, tge dragons can shoot a lot of fire. No they can't constantly shoot it out. Sorry yalls dumb ideas make no sense.