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Regency bias. Sorry. I usually try to proof read because I type on my phone and it’s amazing how autocorrect can insert something that reads fluently but totally changes the meaning (not that necessarily, but other stuff).
To be fair, I haven’t really mentioned him for quite a while, and I remain fairly skeptical about us really maneuvering in a way that would include him.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Knowing that Harris is a pipe dream, I really want Portis. Which pisses me off because he’s a bit of a pipe dream as a RFA. Depending on how he’s valued by Washington. I’m assuming that in order for Portis to sign an offer sheet the jazz need to wave Favors contract.
I do think he’s low on their to do list though. Is he worth the risk?
I do think he’s low on their to do list though. Is he worth the risk?
We could use a little regency bias in our government right about now, but let's just consider Conley Haywad's regency bias.
Or Gordon,Jj and Harris rather than Exum.
Douchebag K
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check back in February bitch
Douchebag K
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going by the evidence dude wasn't just a cold streak, he was too easily exploited and Bud decided he was unable to stay on the court. Derrick's play has won us a couple playoff games.
He didn't get benched because he went cold. He got benched because he went cold AND was getting cooked and repeatedly targeted on defense.
Dunc'd on mock off-season update:
Can you guess who Pelton decided to use our MLE on? Yep... a center. 2/10 for Ed Davis with the second year being player option
So the Jazz related portion of the mock ended up with:
-trade Favors to Boston for fake 2nd
-give Favors' money to Mirotic (3/55)
-sign Ed Davis for 2/10 with second year player option
-MEM trades Crowder to GSW for 1st round pick and Shaun Livingston
Roster ended up being:
PG Mike Conley, Raul Neto, Justin Wright-Foreman
SG Donovan Mitchell, Dante Exum, ???
SF Joe Ingles, Royce O'Neale, Miye Oni
PF Nikola Mirotic, Georges Niang, Jarrell Brantley
C Rudy Gobert, Ed Davis, Tony Bradley
Thoughts?
Can you guess who Pelton decided to use our MLE on? Yep... a center. 2/10 for Ed Davis with the second year being player option
So the Jazz related portion of the mock ended up with:
-trade Favors to Boston for fake 2nd
-give Favors' money to Mirotic (3/55)
-sign Ed Davis for 2/10 with second year player option
-MEM trades Crowder to GSW for 1st round pick and Shaun Livingston
Roster ended up being:
PG Mike Conley, Raul Neto, Justin Wright-Foreman
SG Donovan Mitchell, Dante Exum, ???
SF Joe Ingles, Royce O'Neale, Miye Oni
PF Nikola Mirotic, Georges Niang, Jarrell Brantley
C Rudy Gobert, Ed Davis, Tony Bradley
Thoughts?
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zyzz
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At least they mentioned at the end that Pelton was too eager to get that deal done, and that GMs think less of Mirotic than them. So hopefully his final cost isn't near 18 million.
If we could just add a backup shooting guard I actually think this could be a very good team. In fact I'd prefer this roster over keeping Favors.
416Klawzz
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I have to agree with him because I use to diss him up the most about his love for miroshi* but he hasn't mentioned him for a while
RPM
Bjelica 1.79
Harris 1.63
Mirotic 1.65
RAPM
Bjelica 1.18
Harris 0.61
Mirotic 0.86
Multi-year PIPM
Bjelica 0.6
Harris 0.2
Mirotic 1.1
Wins added
Bjelica 4.7
Harris 5.6
Mirotic 2.9
If we are going to be getting rid off Favors, lets just get Bjelica and use the rest of the capspace on wing(s) and guard(s)
Career stat comparison:
https://www.basketball-reference.co...d2=bjeline01&idx=players#stats-per_game::none
Season stat comparison:
https://www.basketball-reference.co...d2=bjeline01&idx=players#stats-per_game::none
Basically:
- very close in plus-minus stats and win share/40 stats this year, Bjelica perhaps a bit better this year in +/-; though Mirotic better by a fair amount in career, as he also is in win shares
- Bjelica has higher FG% but very similar overall TS% since Mirotic shoots so many more 3s and gets to line more
- Mirotic a better rebounder, Bjelica better at assists (a clear difference in both, but neither by huge amounts)
- Biggest difference is usage and points with Mirotic clearly able to carry a bigger role. Bjelica's usage is less than Gobert's or Ingles's this past year; Mirotic's was in last year's Rubio/Exum range (who were the Jazz's 2nd & 3rd highest usage rotation players last year, if we omit Burks).
- Almost all of the usage difference is in 3-pointers. Mirotic shoots nearly 80% more per 100 possessions. Both shoot nearly equal number of two pointers.
- Bjelica's stats are somewhat similar to Mirotic's, but they're actually a lot more similar (per 100) to Jonas Jerebko's in Utah and GS. Stats may look like Bjelica's a bit better than Jerebko but not by much at all (mainly only because of very small difference in minutes played and usage that favors Bjelica).
Edit: I guess Stitches did it better and first
LoPo
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I feel based on usage stats, that's too close to hoping Jerebko can replace Favors.
Because their management is a disaster and Bjelica’s role was a major source of contention between the FO and coaching (because he started over Bagley). There’s also the potential that they’ll nab yet another big in free agency.
LoPo
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Rumors say Sacramento has interest in Horford. Wonder if we could just trade Favors for Bjelica instead. That way Favors gets his big 2019-20 pay day by having his option picked up and Sacramento maintains some rights going forward.
If they really don't want Bjelica for the reasons you mentioned, they might even send us a couple of the 4 2nd rounders they have in the 2020 draft.
That leaves us with $10 million in cap space. Portis maybe?
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