You are blaming Obama for Russian interference that never happened?
2020 Presidential election
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You are blaming Obama for Russian interference that never happened?
Hotdog
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You got me.
reignman40
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Not a chance, they are to far left, full blown socialist left. Conservatives can't do it despite of what they think of Trump.
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reignman40
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So it's only racist if he tweets about or calls out someone who is other than white, got it.
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She said they were only half of Trump's base.
I'm not surprised by that at all. If anything, I'm surprised it was not more. It shows just how right-leaning Obama was.
So, you think Trump/Fox News were following Clinton's order for 8 years, or just that they were not smart enough to have thought that up on their own? Because otherwise, why is that relevant?
I'll start. It was 0 in any unit you choose to name, so let's go with 0 grams. Now, what would you like to discuss about that?
BTW, in case you were not aware, Russia has about 9 times more of the amount of unmined uranium than the US. It's not like they would need ours.
Something that could easily have been said in July 2015 of the Republicans.
Hotdog
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Its relevant because you contradict yourselves when you throw support behind a Democrat like Hillary Clinton and Barack then turn around and call Trump a Nazi and a racist for saying the same **** as Hillary and Barack. That goes for immigration and every other legal issue that makes you fakes come unhinged.
You are a ****ing fraud when you cant stay consistent in your values. Sir.
If Trump is a Nazi then Hillary is a Nazi. Therefore you cant blame anyone for voting for the lesser of two evils. So shut up and look inwards for supporting your own dumpy racist party.
He's racist because of the contents of those tweets, not because he calls people out.
When do you see me supporting either Clinton or Obama? Insisting on accuracy is different from defending.
Accusing me of your faults, a rather tired effort.
I have never referred to Trump as a Nazi, and have agreed it is not an apt comparison. There are plenty of better actual and wannabe dictators to compare Trump to.
I think you for pointing out, unintentionally, how you are so far rightward that you can't distinguish between those who speak precisely or loosely, those who are leftish or centerish or even center-rightish. I know how you differ from your fellow far-right trolls (Heathme, jazzrule), and I know you differ even more from Catchall, DasJazz, Alaskan Assassin, etc.
Heathme
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Democratic Candidate Asked Why He’s ‘Hypercritical’ Of Trump Immigration Policies He Once Praised Under Obama
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/28/castro-record-immigration-obama/
https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/28/castro-record-immigration-obama/
TheStormofWar
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That's an interesting one, actually. Obama did do a spending uptick to increase border security in 2010, though the numbers only did a slight downward trend since then (2010). Regardless, Castro may have a bit of a problem here.
If you read the linked article I don't think he has a problem. At all. Props to The Daily Caller for posting enough of what Castro said to give it context.
And let's be really clear, Obama was AGGRESSIVE on deportation. Way more than I support. But the focus was to remove criminals first and foremost.
What Trump has done has been to use the Obama standards, but elevate illegal entry to the same standard as a felony. So that there is no distinction between one illegal alien and another, they are all criminals, all equally criminal. There is no focus on people who are violent or otherwise involved in serious illegal activity, because crossing the border illegally is now basically the same as being a murderer.
What Trump has done has been to use the Obama standards, but elevate illegal entry to the same standard as a felony. So that there is no distinction between one illegal alien and another, they are all criminals, all equally criminal. There is no focus on people who are violent or otherwise involved in serious illegal activity, because crossing the border illegally is now basically the same as being a murderer.
Hotdog
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Bunch of inaccurate hyperbole^
Funny that you mention the distinction between immigrants who are good and those who are criminals.
Pretty sure thats what Trump has been trying to say this whole time, but you guys keep turning his comments on their head for your own benefit.
How do you know who is who unless you can vett the people coming in?
This is where the main issue lies^. Republicans are just trying to argue that there needs to be a vetting process and let in people they can trust. Democrats screem racism. Its a childish game the Democrats play.
A "vetting" process that includes family separation because when parents are arrested children are and SHOULD be separated from their criminal parents.
What is happening now is different and uniquely cruel.
TheStormofWar
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I did.
The issue is that the GOP (and some Primary opponents) can paint a generic enough picture to put a hammer to him regarding the words he said. I agree with him regarding getting the dangerous criminal elements out, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying once the crap has been dug up, it's free enough for all the primate to throw.
Hotdog
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The simplest way to put all this..
The Democrats can't or won't argue or discuss actual policy. They choose to tag everything the Republicans do as racist(or making up Russian conspiracies) so they can paint them as evil. The Democrats have even had the same policies the Republicans have had, but call those same policies as racist. Its jus a political game. You are either smart enough to see through it or you are retard. Its as simple as that.
Its disgusting that the Democrats would stoop to this level. How ****ing gross. Willing to make up lies about people and destroy their reputations. Willing to exploit people for their own benefit. Worst of all, willing to confuse the meaning of being what a real racist is.
The Democrats can't or won't argue or discuss actual policy. They choose to tag everything the Republicans do as racist(or making up Russian conspiracies) so they can paint them as evil. The Democrats have even had the same policies the Republicans have had, but call those same policies as racist. Its jus a political game. You are either smart enough to see through it or you are retard. Its as simple as that.
Its disgusting that the Democrats would stoop to this level. How ****ing gross. Willing to make up lies about people and destroy their reputations. Willing to exploit people for their own benefit. Worst of all, willing to confuse the meaning of being what a real racist is.