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Zombie said:
The transcript isn't the basis for the complaint. The whistle-blower is.

And as has been posted earlier White House aides don't do word for word transcripts of WH calls, they do readouts which are summaries written by people working for the President. We know Donald Trump has lied about contents of calls and is an otherwise untrustworthy person, anything he gives up willingly is worthy of suspicion.
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Has Ukraine confirmed that Trump pressured them or held financial aid over their head?

Also, why would Trump need to pressure Ukraine over Joe and Biden Hunter? It seems that story was all over the news already.
 
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infection said:
Let’s assume they vote to impeach and, for argument sake, manage to get 20+ republicans, or whatever number, to actually get him removed.

How do y’all feel about President Pence?
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I would never vote for him, but I feel WAY better about that than I do about President Trump staying in office for another year plus.
 
infection said:
Let’s assume they vote to impeach and, for argument sake, manage to get 20+ republicans, or whatever number, to actually get him removed.

How do y’all feel about President Pence?
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There's no way the Republicans in the Senate are going to vote to remove Trump from office, not unless there's some seriously egregious offense.
 
Catchall said:
There's no way the Republicans in the Senate are going to vote to remove Trump from office, not unless there's some seriously egregious offense.
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They won’t. It’s like the raid on Area 51. It won’t happen, but people are so excited about the prospect that they may not have actually given any thought to what they’d do when they got there.
 
One Brow said:
He will be less embarrassing, and more respecful of the protocols of the office, probably.

Still, overall, worse. I doubt he's the peacenik that Trump is.
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So the window dressing eases the anxiety of the masses even if the actual content is worse.
 
colton said:
That's fantastic! What a great birthday present for me! (yes, today is my birthday)
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Happy birthday to you old fart.
Go tell the kids to get off your lawn already

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infection said:
Let’s assume they vote to impeach and, for argument sake, manage to get 20+ republicans, or whatever number, to actually get him removed.

How do y’all feel about President Pence?
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I'd feel much better. Pence is qualified to be a placeholder until the general election.
 
Catchall said:
Has Ukraine confirmed that Trump pressured them or held financial aid over their head?

Also, why would Trump need to pressure Ukraine over Joe and Biden Hunter? It seems that story was all over the news already.
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From this Washington Post article
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...93a6ca-de38-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

Zelensky’s “entire” administration was concerned “that the aid that was being cut off to Ukraine by the president was a consequence for their unwillingness, at the time, to investigate the Bidens,” Murphy said, citing his interactions with numerous Ukrainian officials during an early September trip there. Murphy said he heard “directly” from Zelensky about “his concern about why the aid was being cut off to Ukraine,” though the Ukraine’s new president did not specifically broach the subject of a quid pro quo.

Giuliani has basically admitted as much on air as well FWIW.

As for why Trump would pressure them, given we know what there is to know about Hunter's involvement in Ukraine there are two options.

Either he believes there is some malfeasance that occurred that has not heretofore been uncovered, or he knows there isn't and wanted them to make something up. I'm not sure that matters all that much. Trump didn't go through the State Dept for this inquiry, he sent a lawyer from his campaign to make the plea in person. That kind of tells you all you need to know about his motivations.
 
Catchall said:
There's no way the Republicans in the Senate are going to vote to remove Trump from office, not unless there's some seriously egregious offense.
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Agreed. But there's no such thing as impeachment with guaranteed removal. The process is what is mandated by the constitution.
 
Catchall said:
This Ukraine fiasco isn't going to help Biden's candidacy, btw. He's been shaky before now, but this will bring people's attention to corruption on his part. The DNC must know this and must basically be pulling him out of the race to give Warren the nomination.

Who is the whistle-blower, btw?
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Thank God since it seems no one in this message board is a Biden fan

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infection said:
Let’s assume they vote to impeach and, for argument sake, manage to get 20+ republicans, or whatever number, to actually get him removed.

How do y’all feel about President Pence?
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Monkey>Trump
Broom>Trump
Turd>Trump.
Soooo.......
Pence>Trump.


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