The official "let's impeach Trump" thread
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Your mom really sucked.
Red
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When I started a thread, something to the effect, "Is Russia trying to help Trump win?", I think it was in July, 2016, NPC D4617 gave me the same answer that Trump apparently gave the Russian officials in that meeting. He told me the very same thing. I really did not have a great answer myself, I knew our CIA had involved itself in the internal politics of other countries. Still, we were attacked, and we needed to defend ourselves. That's all I cared about. My country was attacked by the Russians, wake up people. Anyway, this "what goes around comes around" attitude is likely present among some Americans. I don't think the president should embrace it, but apparently he does. And now we're finding out.
And it's great to see the evidence spilling out now as to who Trump really is. About time!
Red
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This is your commander-in-chief: "President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries". From the Post article. That's his idea of America First.
The Thriller
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And it’s only been... what? 5 days??? Haha imagine how much more we’re going to see it drop in the upcoming weeks! 
Can’t claim they weren’t warned:
Can’t claim they weren’t warned:
Red
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And it’s only been... what? 5 days??? Haha imagine how much more we’re going to see it drop in the upcoming weeks!
The dam has broke!
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Nope. Trumps worstness is independent of Obama.
They are actually 2 different people
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The Thriller
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Fake news. Great leader is great and is completely innocent of everything. He’s draining not only our swamp but ukraine’s and Russia’s and China’s Swamp. Biden is the real criminal, unbiased and very credible Barr is investigating. Doubt me? Check our this article written by Barr’s own mom. In your face libtard. Great leader is great! Even Alan Dershowitz thinks so!
All these people support great Leader. Won’t see reporting like this on maddow:
The Thriller
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It gets worse. I once read HR McMaster’s book titled “Dereliction of Duty.”
He claimed that Trump’s communications with the Russia’s at the time cited in your Post article were “wholly appropriate.”
Everyone in this administration is a walking parody.
The Thriller
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Best example of this? Fox News in the evening. There’s no such thing as truth, everyone is corrupt, Governing is a joke, it’s all a game.
Red
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Obviously, I wholeheartedly agree with Rosen that Timothy Snyder is among the best minds we have. Clarity, clarity, clarity.
This is a good article by the ABA that chronicles the legal questions involving the DOJ. It's for people with an attention span longer than the average goldfish.
http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...pinion-as-whistleblower-complaint-is-released
** The transcript of Trump’s call released Wednesday included a note saying that it was based on notes and recollections and was not a verbatim record of the call.
** The DOJ had reviewed the call transcript and determined that it did not violate campaign finance laws that ban the solicitation of campaign contributions from foreign sources. The DOJ reviewers concluded that seeking help with a government investigation was not a “thing of value” under the law, a source previously told the Washington Post.
** The legal opinion by the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel had concluded that the whistleblower complaint didn’t have to be turned over to Congress. The opinion said the federal law requiring expedited reporting of intelligence agency misconduct didn’t apply because the complaint didn’t concern the operation of an intelligence agency.
** Lutsenko told a publication in April that he had spoken with Giuliani about arranging contact with Barr, according to the whistleblower complaint. The next month, Barr announced that he was initiating a probe into the origins of the Russia investigation. Guiliani told Fox News that the prosecutor leading the probe, U.S. Attorney John Durham, was spending a lot of time in Europe because he was investigating Ukraine.
** The DOJ’s statement Wednesday acknowledged that Durham “is separately exploring the extent to which a number of countries, including Ukraine, played a role in the counterintelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.”
** The whistleblower also referred to Barr when referencing statements by then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko to the Hill publication. Lutsenko asserted that there was evidence Ukrainian officials had interfered with the 2016 election in collaboration with the Democratic National Committee.
** Biden did pressure the Ukrainian president to fire Shokin, but he was acting on behalf of the U.S. government. The AP reports that Shokin was accused of closing the probe into a former government minister who indirectly controlled Burisma, and Shokin never actively investigated Hunter Biden’s work.
http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...pinion-as-whistleblower-complaint-is-released
** The transcript of Trump’s call released Wednesday included a note saying that it was based on notes and recollections and was not a verbatim record of the call.
** The DOJ had reviewed the call transcript and determined that it did not violate campaign finance laws that ban the solicitation of campaign contributions from foreign sources. The DOJ reviewers concluded that seeking help with a government investigation was not a “thing of value” under the law, a source previously told the Washington Post.
** The legal opinion by the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel had concluded that the whistleblower complaint didn’t have to be turned over to Congress. The opinion said the federal law requiring expedited reporting of intelligence agency misconduct didn’t apply because the complaint didn’t concern the operation of an intelligence agency.
** Lutsenko told a publication in April that he had spoken with Giuliani about arranging contact with Barr, according to the whistleblower complaint. The next month, Barr announced that he was initiating a probe into the origins of the Russia investigation. Guiliani told Fox News that the prosecutor leading the probe, U.S. Attorney John Durham, was spending a lot of time in Europe because he was investigating Ukraine.
** The DOJ’s statement Wednesday acknowledged that Durham “is separately exploring the extent to which a number of countries, including Ukraine, played a role in the counterintelligence investigation directed at the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.”
** The whistleblower also referred to Barr when referencing statements by then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko to the Hill publication. Lutsenko asserted that there was evidence Ukrainian officials had interfered with the 2016 election in collaboration with the Democratic National Committee.
** Biden did pressure the Ukrainian president to fire Shokin, but he was acting on behalf of the U.S. government. The AP reports that Shokin was accused of closing the probe into a former government minister who indirectly controlled Burisma, and Shokin never actively investigated Hunter Biden’s work.
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Because they're still investigating, you dolt.
All the DOJ has to do is indicate that investigations into Ukraine, Biden and the Democratic National Committee in 2016 are legitimate government investigations, and this will both clarify and vindicate what Trump said in the phone call, as well as questions surrounding Barr in the whistleblower complaint. The DOJ has already made one statement to that effect this week.
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