The official "let's impeach Trump" thread
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The Thriller
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So glad we have a president who’s made fighting corruption a top priority...
The Thriller
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Sounds like Donald JR and his Fox News girlfriend got trig...
couldn’t help myself
couldn’t help myself
Joe Bagadonuts
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Seems to me that a lot of what you say is based upon the worst possible interpretation of his motives. Much of this stuff is so pervasive in the mainstream media that people getting their news exclusively from those sources see it all as fact.
Zombie
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I love this pervasive assumption from righties about where everyone who is anti Trump gets their news from.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Isn't it wonderful that lefties never make any such assumptions.
Right? People blaming the press are not honest. The press are not to blame for the hatred of Trump. Trump is his own press.
Zombie
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No u!
Joe Bagadonuts
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I'm not the big lying elephant on this forum who pretends to be so damn cool nobody can discuss anything with me unless it fits my agenda.
I get it that the agenda wonks in here are mostly rich dudes with government jobs, connections with elites or political sycophants of one sort or another.
Colton pastes link after link from the in-crowd "Resistance" Press, but I've never seen him do any evaluation that involved critical thinking or questioning the material, though there is some available.
I don't like his fav Mitt or the Mormon elites who are all quite tight with the RINO/Chamber of Commerce/CFR sort of folks who have been working for decades on the presumption that this world is theirs and that people who can't see that are just ignoramuses who should be ignored and insulted.
I realize there is a lot going on that is beyond my reach for information, beyond my power to influence, and I just hope some few people will think twice about how good it all is.
Is there anything I can do about it? Probably not. Hard to even just not step in the ****.
Over all, just coming here is a decision to wade into a sewer and try to learn a little about it.
Some folks are actually seeing Trump's tweets as a great way around the Press, but I don't think it's the same as a "Press".
Maybe The Blaze, maybe Newsmax..... Drudge.... Breitbart.....
I see enough counter-Resistance media available, I think the MSM doesn't even get 40% of the reading or listening or viewing public.
hotel lobbies, airport waiting areas.....bars..... I dunno. The stuff is "on" but nobody is watching.
Denny's and some other places I've been, have conservative programming running for the customers.
But the little band of Resistance warriors apparently have all been told they can't watch to good stuff..... lol....
But to say the MSM is anything but hate..... well.... that's the real stretch.
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You've completely missed the point.
MSM can be as anti-Trump or anti-your particular version of pro-American all they want. That wasn't the issue at hand.
The issue is that it is VERY common for pro-Trump folks to say the reason, the primary basis for anti-Trump sentiment is based in lies told by the MSM.
I dislike Trump largely based on his personality type. I've known people with a similar personality type in real life, and completely separate from their political views, I don't like those people. It's an ugly, petty, delusional personality type and Trump is the very epitome of it.
I don't like Trump based on the words that come out of his mouth and his body language. He's utterly detestable and I felt that way about him the first time I saw him on SNL like 20 or 30 years ago. I watched about 10min of "The Apprentice" and had enough because I find him so repulsive. I had no idea about his background then. Certainly didn't know what his political leanings were. I just thought he was a blowhard jackass that needed his ego stroked. And that's exactly what he is. Then I find out about the Central Park 5, the "grab 'em by the *****" and that he's essentially a nationalist who has attracted racists and bigots to his cause and it starts to go beyond just finding his personality disgusting. It starts to be about what I want this country to be and let me tell you, I'm pro-American and the America I want is not the same one Trump wants. And I get a say just as much as anyone else, any other citizen, because this is my country too.
I know it's challenging for you to understand short, simple statements because your head is swimming in conspiracy theories, babe, but pry your eyes away from your NWO vlog and try to follow me. You ready? Pay attention.
Trump says enough via twitter, interviews, rallies and press conferences to form a qualified opinion of him; there's no mainstream media necessary to recognize how ****ed up he is.
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This is a fairly articulate and reasoned post, and I recognize you are doing some self-evaluation here. Probably Colton has this sort of view, and reasons, behind the cut and paste posts he does, maybe even Thriller. I think Red is a desperately consistent true believer in what he reads in the MSM, but he didn't need the MSM to form his world view to begin with. Probably need to look at his professor friends and personal contacts more.
All my point is that, objectively, the MSM is pretty much a screed today that doesn't do any balanced reporting...... yah.... I see it sometimes. Once in a few weeks i'm somewhere where I have nothing better I can do.
Not hard to see that the MSM giants are part of a very determined rundown of whatever can sound bad for Trump.
I think it's fair enough to figure that the ownership is responsible for the bias and the choice of materials they run. It shows their position in the world today.
Dem party leadership is barely distinguishable from the MSM in most respects. And that can fairly enough be attributed to ownership as well.
This is no damn "conspiracy". It's public political incitement, and I think it's toxic.
Whatever your reasons for being concerned about Trump, I think drinking too deep from the Media is going to poison your reason.
How long have you been outta college?
I mean, in the real world you will begin to see some nuance and inconsistent/incoherent realities that just don't really fit the model you've been sold. When it comes to breaking down something like the NWO...."New World Order", the first thing you need to figure out is that is it is not an objective reality. It's a slogan. It's cute, it's concise, it's symbolic. Maybe there are some people who understand it in pretty consistent terms, but human beings are rarely consistent with their ideas, beliefs, loves. We are all "mixed up". Our humanity prevails, hopefully, against our logic. Well, maybe it will when you get away form college for a few years and maybe work an actual job.
Hitler had his dream of the Third Reich, Russian nationalist Gogol had his visions of a wonderful, shining Russia, the City on the Hill, shining alabaster white. The Christians have their City Four Square or the Throne of God or whatever damn dream of singing songs to Jesus. The NWO is like that.
Pretty damn sure the Chinese smile at us for our stupidity, tell us what they see we want to hear, and live to bring home the glory their own way.
Nobody actually believes in the NWO or Marxism......
Democracy is different. there are some people who prefer that over centralized power, and are willing to put up with its problems, hoping to avert worse things.
I don't read Trump's tweets. Never.
I bet if I went looking I could find a lot of asinine partisan material made up to just insult the progressives. It might be even Trump's off-the-cuff rally speeches are like that, certainly they must be seein in that light by progressives. But if things have gone off the rails for the "NWO" or progressive campaign, we should not replace that failed view with chimpchatter. OK?
I know it's hard to dislodge one kind of partisanship in a dedicated group like this just enough to get some actual discussion going on, but it's the only thing really worth doing if you come here.
I work for a private university, and have adjunct gig at a community college. Does that count?
Zombie
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Wow busted. I'm actually George Soros' personal assistant.
Don't be ridiculous. George Soros' personal assistant is still on Fantasy Island, or whatever that island was. Phu Ket, maybe. Whatever. Zombies really just can't do that work right.
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