MVP
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Quite unrealistic for LT to lose 3 games at home. I think your better chance is to beat Serbia and hope they will lose their games vs Spain and LT.
TURKEY-FRANCE : FIirst game of the 2nd round
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Quite unrealistic for LT to lose 3 games at home. I think your better chance is to beat Serbia and hope they will lose their games vs Spain and LT.
That's kind of the silly thing, though. That's still a scoring rate better than most of the players on Turkey. Maybe I have my homer goggles on too tight, but Kanter just makes plays and his presence is felt. His D is second-best on the team behind Asik and he plays it without making stupid mistakes most of the time.
How a team's most productive, efficient, and consistent scorer; best rebounder; and second-best defender can't get on the court is beyond me.
Serbia always makes trouble for us. I dont think we can beat Serbia, from now on, i think our only chance is lithuania to lose 3 and we beat germany, otherwise it doesnt seem to be a way out. Serbia will be too concentrated to take the revenge of last year semi final game in world champ. It will be the most intense game in this tournament
He is too young, so he prefers Ersan over him, in Europe veterans are always one step ahead. Also Omer is too good defender as a C to be substituted by Kanter. And he never tries Ersan as 3, so he cant get many mins. Ersan sucked too bad today but still he got 10 points. Coach cant be sure if Kanter will put the same performance while he was away from basket 2 years. But i believe Enes deserves more than 10 mins at least because he proved that he is a real baller and i think he will get many guys fouled out in nba. He forces them to make contact, he needs more practise to perfect his plays that he does good, like post game and footwork.
aybars
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serbia losing against LTU,mmm,quite intresting,and very much unrealistic,and i dont see how the hell serbia is losing any of these teams.and in my opinion ltu has only chance to beat germany,if they get extra help from referees
I think the turkish coach is very inexperienced and he make too many mistakes, but he is a very professional sportsman. He proved it after poland game with his comments. He didnt hide behind referees or something, he just answered the question when asked about how bad were they. Today, he told, i think both team played bad, before game we wanted to pay attention to two points, first rebounding which france is very dominant over many teams and we did well. But we couldnt help with TOs as much as we tried. And we shoot the ball very bad. Anyway we could still win a game we played so bad, but right now we gotta forget this lose and immediately start thinking about Germany game.
But anyway i didnt understand why Emir tried to put the ball inbounds, it should have been Hedo
But anyway i didnt understand why Emir tried to put the ball inbounds, it should have been Hedo
I think they will beat germany for sure, but i dont think LT deserves to be ahead of turkey in this tourney, they are a very limited team. Turkey should kill themselves how they are in this position with so many good players.
aybars
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can you imagine if we end up in a same situation like we had in the firsst group,waiting germany to win over LTU at the last game.we can offer all ggerman players life time free kebab in germany,ha ha
MVP
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LT beat Serbia easily last year in Worlds. You really underestimating LT team, they are 5th ranked team in the world way ahead of France, Serbia, Turkey or Germany. Plus they play at home. Granted they do not have Kleiza this year but they got back Songaila and Jasikevicius which added much needed experience.
After you see Enes play, did your feeling change between the time he is drafted and now, you think we made the right choice to pick him?
MVP
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Turkey has few better individual players, LT has better coach, home advantage and longer bench. Both teams lost only one game last year in Worlds vs USA. I do not see a clear cut Turkey advantage over LT. Could you explain what you mean by limited?
But its not easy to execute this decisions, then Ersan or Hedo should be out. So you cant play them together more than 10 mins a game. But i agree they would be more efficient together. But you cant just take Ersan out if he is on a good day, and you cant finish games with Enes , Omer duo.
My thoughts on Kanter were more on the uncertainty than on whether it was good or bad. I certainly feel better that he looks really good thus far, but it's hard to say if it was the right call until this draft class is a couple of years in. While this level of competition is good, there is just nothing like the NBA so I really want to see how that goes down. My gut feeling is that comfort with the plays and his teammates is going to go an especially long way for Kanter.
I'm really interested to see how Irving, Williams, Knight, and Biyombo will be as well.
But as of right now, I think it was at least an okay pick.
Sepanol
If I was Turkey's coach I would bench Hedo and Ersan and every other perimeter player until they learned how to pass the ball to a big. Its pathetic watching Turkey bomb away from outside when the interior players are actually really good. Moreover, Hedo is a 3 regardless of his size. Rotate Hedo and Ersan at the 3.
If I was Turkey's coach I would bench Hedo and Ersan and every other perimeter player until they learned how to pass the ball to a big. Its pathetic watching Turkey bomb away from outside when the interior players are actually really good. Moreover, Hedo is a 3 regardless of his size. Rotate Hedo and Ersan at the 3.
Yeah thats right, but Hedo should take the responsibility sometimes, and he does it well, just they shouldnt do it unnecessarily. When turkey use too early attacks, and out of discipline, they just suck and make turnovers. We should play more half court game and post up. There are too many options but we are using just limited options, launching 3s is the easiest way and we suck at it this year. Last year we were the best 3s in the tourney but now we just suck , we have to change it. I dont dislike the coach but its obvious he is too inexperienced. I hope he will get better in time, its his first coaching experience, he was a good pg before in turkey
I dont have much expectations about Williams and biyombo. Knight will be good and Irving maybe a franchise guy but i think Kanter is the best big guy in this draft
MVP
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And that would be bad for Turkey as I said. You should hope for double double from JV better
