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fishonjazz said:
The numbers that need to be included along with your numbers is total number of black people in the country vs total number of white people in the country.

Makes the numbers you posted look much different.

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I'm also not sure where these numbers are coming from and I would question the accuracy of any statistic in the matter.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Food for thought.

The number of unarmed black people killed by law enforcement last year was less than the number of unarmed white people who were killed. 9 to 14 iirc.

I'm not absolving Chauvin of responsibility here. He deserves to serve decades if not life.
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Black non-Hispanics make up 12% of the population and, using your data, account for 40% of unarmed murders by police.

See the problem yet?

Btw, you’ll have trouble finding a data point that casts blame on black people. I would give it up.


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Handlogten's Heros said:
. they likely thought he was roughing the guy up and being aggressive... which based on the videos I'm seeing online is par for the course unfortunately.
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It boggles my mind that any reasonable person would think that anything that happened was legal, but you're probably right. I think some people join the force assuming this kind of stuff is normal. And kosher.
 
fishonjazz said:
The numbers that need to be included along with your numbers is total number of black people in the country vs total number of white people in the country.

Makes the numbers you posted look much different.

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I want to apologize. I knew what you said in advance but thought the % of whites was lower and blacks was higher than what it is in this country. Basically there are six times as many whites which means based on the data I gave, blacks have a 4x greater chance of being killed than a white.

Awful and I feel ashamed that I even posted it.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
Black non-Hispanics make up 12% of the population and, using your data, account for 40% of unarmed murders by police.

See the problem yet?

Btw, you’ll have trouble finding a data point that casts blame on black people. I would give it up.


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Give it up? Have I sat here and posted against blacks over the last ten days? I made a flawed post and owned up to it just now. Save the self-righteousness. It’s sort of nauseating tbpfh as if you, a white person mind you, knows exactly what the right approach is for all this as you stand on your perch and preach, but all other whites don’t. Sort of laughably ironic tbh.
 
fishonjazz said:
The numbers that need to be included along with your numbers is total number of black people in the country vs total number of white people in the country.
Makes the numbers you posted look much different.
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It's also worth factoring in where people live. Black people, on average, live in relatively poorer places. Impoverished places tend to have more crime, which leads to more police, and more deaths at the hands of police.

Edit: This is not meant as a post to place blame. Rather just to consider what potential corrective action should be. 100% of the focus can't purely be on changing police departments, but also on finding ways to empower minorities to escape poverty.
 
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Do you guys see USA at some point imploding like USSR or Yugoslavia did and going through some kind of civil war and eventually splitting into smaller states/countries, etc? Just looks like your country is such a mess right now and doubt it will be any better now matter who wins presidential race in November.
 
The Thriller said:


Good. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out. Time for these losers to get real jobs.
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No one stopped to help... no one even glanced at the officer... friggin disgusting. If all of them sit out lay them off... I'm sure they will find a great job in this booming economy... especially when their future employer sees they were fired for supporting their colleague who abused an elderly guy.
 
MVP said:
Do you guys see USA at some point imploding like USSR or Yugoslavia did and going through some kind of civil war and eventually splitting into smaller states/countries, etc? Just looks like your country is such a mess right now and doubt it will be any better now matter who wins presidential race in November.
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Here is my view... this is America's intervention... it may turn out positive and we may come together and realize how screwed up we are. We could also say... Nah we good and then I think we could go on a bender that gets really ugly.

I feel like this is prequel to the Hunger Games.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
Here in lies the problem. Those cops should be trained to intervene if someone is being murdered by another cop.
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I agree. They should be trained to intervene. Apparently they weren't. Is that the cops' fault if they followed the policies and procedures that they've been taught?

BabyPeterzz said:
The blue line has protected them for so long, they don’t even question their own actions or the actions of fellow cops.
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Totally agree that law enforcement needs to end this culture of standing behind officers that clearly have acted inappropriately.

BabyPeterzz said:
They need to set an example with these two. Your silence makes you complicate. Period.
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I thought we established that they were NOT silent? They (reportedly) told the guy to get off his neck and put him in the police car. He refused. I think the example that needs to be set has to be with the department leaders. If a chief of police was charged with some form of negligence, you might see some reconsider their hiring process.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Give it up? Have I sat here and posted against blacks over the last ten days? I made a flawed post and owned up to it just now. Save the self-righteousness. It’s sort of nauseating tbpfh as if you, a white person mind you, knows exactly what the right approach is for all this as you stand on your perch and preach, but all other whites don’t. Sort of laughably ironic tbh.
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You posted some racist ********. Yeah give it up man. I’m not gonna let anyone on this site spout this trash without hearing about it. Are you trying to silence me? I will continue to call you and everyone else out when I see racist **** posted and you won’t stop me.

You didn’t do it consciously, and apologized. Thank you. Now own it. Check yourself before you call me out man.


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AlaskanAssassin said:
It's also worth factoring in where people live. Black people, on average, live in relatively poorer places. Impoverished places tend to have more crime, which leads to more police, and more deaths at the hands of police.

Edit: This is not meant as a post to place blame. Rather just to consider what potential corrective action should be. 100% of the focus can't purely be on changing police departments, but also on finding ways to empower minorities to escape poverty.
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Hence the call to move funding from militarizing our police and funnel it to diverse neighborhoods.


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Okay, so I just read that one of the arrested officers is actually Black. His ethnicity and race are listed as Black on Minneapolis Police Department forms. His attorney also stated:
“Kueng is a Black Man, raised by a single mom who adopted him at the age of four”, his attorney Plunkett confirmed.

Serious question: Does this change our perception, presumed motive, or the narrative of what occurred?
 
I wonder what would happen if we hired more minorities as police officers. Not sure what the current hire rate is or if it would be successful. I haven't seen video of a black officer choking out anyone... I wonder if they might be a tad more compassionate.
 
One Brow said:
If she was only slightly more developed than a typical 13-year-old, that's ephebophilia (attraction to moderately developed adolescents), which probably describe half the males on this board. Sure, it's disgusting, but we raise men to be disgusting, and it's not pedophilia.
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I have told this story here before, but once I was in the mall, was going to meet the family in the food court for dinner or something after work. I called the wife and she said the kids were all with friends but that they would all be converging on the food court, so I found a place to sit down and people watch. It wasn't long before I saw a woman come out of Hot Topic or something. Man was she built, in a tasteful outfit that revealed about the right amount of skin. Shorts, halter-type top, very shapely legs, maybe the best butt I have ever witnesses.

I may be married but I am not dead, so I didn't mind the view for bit. She walked away from the store after standing there texting for a few minutes, behind a kiosk or something and I lost view. I didn't think anything of it until I saw my daughter and she saw me. She waved and ran over, and in tow was this woman.

My daughter gave me a hug and turned and said "daddy meet my friend, Jamie" (or something can't remember her name but I think that is it). My jaw dropped to the floor. She was in the same class as my daughter, so she was a sophomore in high school, just turned 15 they told me. I would have swore earlier that she was 25 or so, maybe as young as 20.

Changes the way you think about things I will tell you that.
 
AlaskanAssassin said:
It's also worth factoring in where people live. Black people, on average, live in relatively poorer places. Impoverished places tend to have more crime, which leads to more police, and more deaths at the hands of police.

Edit: This is not meant as a post to place blame. Rather just to consider what potential corrective action should be. 100% of the focus can't purely be on changing police departments, but also on finding ways to empower minorities to escape poverty.
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Agreed.

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Interesting. Also the video says the N word in it. So just be aware. We are still in the beginning stages of integration I think.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
You posted some racist ********. Yeah give it up man. I’m not gonna let anyone on this site spout this trash without hearing about it. Are you trying to silence me? I will continue to call you and everyone else out when I see racist **** posted and you won’t stop me.

You didn’t do it consciously, and apologized. Thank you. Now own it. Check yourself before you call me out man.


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Lmfao. Get over yourself, clown.
 
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