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Mike Conley Sign-and-Trade Possibilities

LoPo said:
I thought somebody said we can't sign and trade Conley because you can't either be or go into the luxury to sign the player then trade them.

So can we sign and trade him or not?

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We can’t go over the apron with incoming salary which means we could only take 10.2M back or include him in a larger deal that would really be two separate deals happening simultaneously.
 
Jazzman12 said:
Agree with this.
Any sign and trade scenarios to places Conley would want to go are pretty much fatally flawed from the get go.

Also, some of the places Conley would want to go may either not want Conley or would be begging him to sign on for the vet min due to already problematic cap situations. While Conley had made his money and wants a ring, the dude isn’t gonna play for vet minimum.

So if we read the tea leaves: The contending team that can pay Mike the most money while giving him at least what he sees as a viable chance to win a ring is……….. THE UTAH JAZZ.

We’re running it back kids. Sure, there will be some moves around the edges, but not much is gonna change.
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This is probably accurate. Minus Conley. Unless we overpay and really hamstring ourselves I don't think he's coming back. He'll go ring-chasing.
 
LogGrad98 said:
This is probably accurate. Minus Conley. Unless we overpay and really hamstring ourselves I don't think he's coming back. He'll go ring-chasing.
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That would be very interesting because if Conley decides to move on, it’s not like the Jazz suddenly have tons of money to go find a replacement.

At that point, either DL decides to pull off yet another trade in his seemingly endless PG pursuit, or maybe the front office simply decides to slide Donovan over to the 1 and add a 3 and D guy with some length.

While I don’t think Donovan is necessarily a guy who can get a lot of his teammates involved from the PG spot, when it comes playoff time, we pretty much want the ball in his hands anyway. Even with the Conley injury, that Clipper series goes Utah’s way with the right 3 and D guy in the line-up.

P.S.- Jerami Grant is easily “The Guy” who gets a team built around DM and Rudy over the hump. DL should have a picture of Grant hanging on his bathroom mirror at this point along with the words: “Jerami Grant no matter what.”
 
Conley to the Lakers for their 1st (#22) and Caruso.

Conley to the Knicks for #19, Knox and Vildoza

Conley to the Mavs for Dorian Finney Smith.

These are ones I’d strongly consider. That said, we do this, and who the hell is our point guard next year? I assume we’d roll with Donnie at the 1. Think the Lakers would do this proposal but the Knicks and Mavs would not.
 
If we do something like above in which we get a 1st, and can buy a 1st somehow, we’d have three 1sts. I think those with Bogey in a trade package could get us near a top 10 pick, and a really freakin legit prospect.

That said, our offense would suffer immeasurably if we traded Conley and Bogey.
 
Jazzman12 said:
That would be very interesting because if Conley decides to move on, it’s not like the Jazz suddenly have tons of money to go find a replacement.

At that point, either DL decides to pull off yet another trade in his seemingly endless PG pursuit, or maybe the front office simply decides to slide Donovan over to the 1 and add a 3 and D guy with some length.

While I don’t think Donovan is necessarily a guy who can get a lot of his teammates involved from the PG spot, when it comes playoff time, we pretty much want the ball in his hands anyway. Even with the Conley injury, that Clipper series goes Utah’s way with the right 3 and D guy in the line-up.

P.S.- Jerami Grant is easily “The Guy” who gets a team built around DM and Rudy over the hump. DL should have a picture of Grant hanging on his bathroom mirror at this point along with the words: “Jerami Grant no matter what.”
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You say that like good 3 & D guys are just hanging around on the corner waiting for the call. And how would we suddenly have tons of money for a 3&D if we don't have money for a PG?
 
I highly doubt Conley signs anywhere that isn't considered a higher tier than us. I don't think he'd leave for something that's not a clear upgrade. Philly ain't that. Dallas ain't that. Please stop saying New York.
 
infection said:
I highly doubt Conley signs anywhere that isn't considered a higher tier than us. I don't think he'd leave for something that's not a clear upgrade. Philly ain't that. Dallas ain't that. Please stop saying New York.
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If he wants to leave, we could still facilitate it to give him what he wants and at least get us something in return.

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LoPo said:
If he wants to leave, we could still facilitate it to give him what he wants and at least get us something in return.

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He’s not leaving for any teams on our tier or lower. No Indiana. No NY. No Dallas. No Minnesota.

You’ve got a couple teams he could go to.
 
infection said:
I highly doubt Conley signs anywhere that isn't considered a higher tier than us. I don't think he'd leave for something that's not a clear upgrade. Philly ain't that. Dallas ain't that. Please stop saying New York.
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Dude, no offense, but you’re high. Philly is in the ECF. If they add Conley (they can’t fwiw), they’re clearly better than we are with Conley IMO. I think he’d see it that way too. And Dallas? They add him, they might be better as well. I think Conley would look at it that way.
 
infection said:
He’s not leaving for any teams on our tier or lower. No Indiana. No NY. No Dallas. No Minnesota.

You’ve got a couple teams he could go to.
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I don't care where he wants to go. If he wants to leave, and we can get any value at all in return, we need to take it. We are that asset poor.

So if it's Indiana as part of a Brogdon deal, so be it.

If it's LA for Kuz, that's better than nothing.

I just don't want to lose the guy for nothing.

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LoPo said:
I don't care where he wants to go. If he wants to leave, and we can get any value at all in return, we need to take it. We are that asset poor.

So if it's Indiana as part of a Brogdon deal, so be it.

If it's LA for Kuz, that's better than nothing.

I just don't want to lose the guy for nothing.

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Mike has expressed interest in playing in the Eastern Conference and playing for his hometown team in Indiana. The Pacers are reportedly shopping Brogdon so it makes sense for both teams.

Then we go after Batum/Porter with our MLE, sign Kris Dunn and Torey Craig to vet min contracts, and draft Chris Duarte.
 
JayExotic said:
Mike has expressed interest in playing in the Eastern Conference and playing for his hometown team in Indiana. The Pacers are reportedly shopping Brogdon so it makes sense for both teams.

Then we go after Batum/Porter with our MLE, sign Kris Dunn and Torey Craig to vet min contracts, and draft Chris Duarte.
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Sounds like a plan to me. Seems like we would have to give up more, but if he's a piece they like, let's do it.

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Unfortunately we can’t take Brogdon back in a trade without giving up salary such as Bogey, Ingles or Clarkson.
 
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