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enchilada_style said:
Assuming Don is gone, I wonder if the Jazz just see Ayton as an asset to trade after he has a season of shooting the ball 20 times per game.
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Ayton is not mr. Motivated… I’d be terrified to have him on a max in a tank environment.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Will be tough for him to get more for the more valuable player.

I’m honestly not sure if the Knicks package is really there. Not sure Brunson and Don is what they are after. I kinda wonder if we do the Fon to Brooklyn thing if Simmons heads to NY… they give up 2 or 3 of their own picks and maybe one of their less valuable ones… we take Randle instead of Simmons (not ideal but at least he plays basketball and can be a tank master). So we end up with the Phoenix picks and a couple NY picks.
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I still just don't understand why NY just didn't trade their load of picks and expirings for Don when they had the chance. Brunson is fine, but Don would have rejuvenated the fan base.

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LoPo said:
I still just don't understand why NY just didn't trade their load of picks and expirings for Don when they had the chance. Brunson is fine, but Don would have rejuvenated the fan base.

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Probably didn’t think they could get it done… may not have been willing to pay the price in draft capital. No idea but if they don’t come out of all this player movement with a star they will be slightly better next year but still disappointing
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Probably didn’t think they could get it done… may not have been willing to pay the price in draft capital. No idea but if they don’t come out of all this player movement with a star they will be slightly better next year but still disappointing
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They are hoping Utah gets tired of his BS and just deals him eventually
 
It's a standoff:

How long can NYK stand being mediocre and risk Don being dealt elsewhere vs how long can Utah stand Donovan being a baby on the Jazz and hurting the culture.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's a standoff:

How long can NYK stand being mediocre and risk Don being dealt elsewhere vs how long can Utah stand Donovan being a baby on the Jazz and hurting the culture.
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Brooklyn is the perfect team to use as leverage too… right in they backyard.
 
sip said:
He was never worth it. He was a terrible fit with Mitchell from a size standpoint and age didn't fit with the timeliness to compete. It turned a 7yr window into a 2 yr window while making us asset poor and tiny in the backcourt.
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what bothered me the most about acquiring Conley was that the Jazz gave up 2 first for him. Jazz was doing Memphis a favor by taking on his contract. Jazz should have received at least one first round pick. The second issue was the Jazz overpaid when they re-signed him after his injuries. We bided against ourselves.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I say the prophesy of Wind Horse is not yet fulfilled… not only was he prophesying concerning the great and dreadful rebuild… but he foretold the place where Donovan will be traded. Remember Don is besties with Royce… and Brian was saying why would we trade Royce to Brooklyn… very strange… very strange. While everyone views the prophesy as being fulfilled he was trying to tell us where the final star will land.
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Wind Horse lol


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's a standoff:

How long can NYK stand being mediocre and risk Don being dealt elsewhere vs how long can Utah stand Donovan being a baby on the Jazz and hurting the culture.
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Well according to Tony, DM wasn't the only baby on the team. He mentioned that Rudy was acting weird behind the scenes too. I am sure DM is not as bad as you say and Rudy is not as innocent as you belief. Every team has drama now and then. However, I can admit that I really don't know what happened behind the scene, but in reality, I don't care about the drama. All I care about is winning and both guys helped the Jazz to win, but it is painfully obvious that this Jazz team had hit their ceiling. Changes are needed.
 
KqWIN said:
, and the appeal of Ayton is somewhat diminished if Don is traded anyways.

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I disagree. For me its very appealing to go into a rebuild with a 23 year old former #1 pick who has already looked amazing, has a great skillset, still has potential, has already been in the playoffs multiple times, etc.
 
cowhide said:
Well according to Tony, DM wasn't the only baby on the team. He mentioned that Rudy was acting weird behind the scenes too. I am sure DM is not as bad as you say and Rudy is not as innocent as you belief. Every team has drama now and then. However, I can admit that I really don't know what happened behind the scene, but in reality, I don't care about the drama. All I care about is winning and both guys helped the Jazz to win, but it is painfully obvious that this Jazz team had hit their ceiling. Changes are needed.
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I don't believe Rudy is innocent. I just find not playing D or passing worse than calling people out.
 
cowhide said:
Well according to Tony, DM wasn't the only baby on the team. He mentioned that Rudy was acting weird behind the scenes too. I am sure DM is not as bad as you say and Rudy is not as innocent as you belief. Every team has drama now and then. However, I can admit that I really don't know what happened behind the scene, but in reality, I don't care about the drama. All I care about is winning and both guys helped the Jazz to win, but it is painfully obvious that this Jazz team had hit their ceiling. Changes are needed.
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Exactly man. Exactly.

Been saying it a while - Rudy is just as big of baby as Don. They are both divas.

Rudy was dealt. Maybe the fanboys should acknowledge that he was part of the problem and not completely blame Don.

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sip said:
He was never worth it. He was a terrible fit with Mitchell from a size standpoint and age didn't fit with the timeliness to compete. It turned a 7yr window into a 2 yr window while making us asset poor and tiny in the backcourt.
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This.
I always hated that trade


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