Gay definitely is but Conley is only partially guaranteed after next year so he should be viewed as a neutral asset.
Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz
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416Klawzz
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I have my dislikes for Gobert but I don't hate the guy.
The haters on his new chapter is just wrong Sheesh
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The haters on his new chapter is just wrong Sheesh
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Hearsky
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I said the same thing about Hand Lotion's mom.
"Deandre Ayton, Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson and five picks still isn't enough to me for KD," one general manager told Jake Fischer.
But that's impossible.
framer
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KD has become seriously overrated. You strip Phoenix like that and make their key pieces geezers those far out draft picks are gold.
YoungJefe
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Another said the best package they were going to get is Herro, Lowry, Robinson, and picks.
I don't think he is overrated as a player but I completely agree about trade value. The guy is about to be 34 and has an injury history that should scare any team.
YoungJefe
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So here's what the Memphis Grizzlies' rebuild looked like:
2017 - Grizzlies were the 7th seed in the WC with key players including Mike Conley, Marc Gasol, Zach Randolph and Tony Allen.
2018 - Grizzlies tanked it and ended up with the #4 pick Jaren Jackson Jr.
2019 - They traded Marc Gasol during the season and tanked again, ending up with the #2 pick Ja Morant and #21 Brandon Clarke. They traded Mike Conley to the Jazz right before the draft.
2020 - Their new young core of Ja Morant / Jaren Jackson Jr., along with pickups like Kyle Anderson and Jonas Valanciunas, was 9th in the WC. They traded to draft Desmond Bane at #30.
2021 - Finished 8th in the WC and lost to the Jazz in the 1st round. They traded up in the draft to take Ziaire Williams at #10. Core was Morant / Brooks / JJJ / Valanciunas.
2022 - Finished 3rd in the WC and lost to the Warriors in the 2nd round. Core is now Morant / Bane / JJJ.
2017 - Grizzlies were the 7th seed in the WC with key players including Mike Conley, Marc Gasol, Zach Randolph and Tony Allen.
2018 - Grizzlies tanked it and ended up with the #4 pick Jaren Jackson Jr.
2019 - They traded Marc Gasol during the season and tanked again, ending up with the #2 pick Ja Morant and #21 Brandon Clarke. They traded Mike Conley to the Jazz right before the draft.
2020 - Their new young core of Ja Morant / Jaren Jackson Jr., along with pickups like Kyle Anderson and Jonas Valanciunas, was 9th in the WC. They traded to draft Desmond Bane at #30.
2021 - Finished 8th in the WC and lost to the Jazz in the 1st round. They traded up in the draft to take Ziaire Williams at #10. Core was Morant / Brooks / JJJ / Valanciunas.
2022 - Finished 3rd in the WC and lost to the Warriors in the 2nd round. Core is now Morant / Bane / JJJ.
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If CP or KD goes down with a routine injury, like an ankle or hamstring, their immediate draft picks could be decent too. PHX's quality depth would be gone, along with their cap space and draft picks.
Jazz really need lottery picks back in a Donovan Mitchell trade. Not maybe mid-late, 1st-rd picks, but lottery picks. We need to trade Donovan before the draft to a team with a definite lottery pick that we like.
It's too bad we couldn't get #4 from Sacramento this year. In hindsight, we should have been trying to do that. Maybe we did.
It's too bad we couldn't get #4 from Sacramento this year. In hindsight, we should have been trying to do that. Maybe we did.
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margodydek
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I think MEM and NOP should be our models. Small markets that cashed in on some all-stars, tanked for a couple years and both are in excellent positions for the next few years.
One correction though, MEM finished 2 in the west this year.
Memphis only got late 1sts from UTA for Mike Conley, picks that became Brandon Clarke and Jake Laravia. That's not good enough.