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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

It sounds like the Jazz are going to need to acquire a center based on JZ's comments in the Deseret News about Kessler entering the "Jazz developmental program." It sounds like some bus rides with the Stars are in the young man's immediate future.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The general handling of the backup center position was so much more damaging while providing so little value. Investing two first round picks in backups and an MLE and BAE (or whatevs Davis signed) and then investing another first and some seconds to clear the books of those guys is sooooooooo much more damaging.
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****ing ridiculous that the Jazz touted “positionless basketball” forever and then didn’t follow that philosophy whatsoever. They tried like crazy to find centers and a point guards. What they needed all along was wings. ****ing morons. Goes to show they needed to follow a bpa approach.


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Handlogten's Heros said:
i love Bev's attitude. Hey Utah... let's get it... or if you don't want to then that's cool too. Nice to see a vet that isn't just trying to jump on the superstar bus or get to a glamour market. He will play wherever.
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I’ve been a devout Jazz fan for 36 years, and I feel like after all of that time of unwavering support and money spent, it’s fair to say they owe me 1 favor.

Well, I’m ready to cash that favor in and I want it to be at least 1 season of Patrick Beverly in a Jazz uni! Please!
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The general handling of the backup center position was so much more damaging while providing so little value. Investing two first round picks in backups and an MLE and BAE (or whatevs Davis signed) and then investing another first and some seconds to clear the books of those guys is sooooooooo much more damaging.
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If you put it that way then the handling of starting PG position was just as damaging. Investing multiple FRPs(one of which was a lottery pick) on PG rentals that each have only produced no more than two good seasons of basketball, especially when teams have showed that you can win without one.
 
mongoose01 said:
****ing ridiculous that the Jazz touted “positionless basketball” forever and then didn’t follow that philosophy whatsoever. They tried like crazy to find centers and a point guards. What they needed all along was wings. ****ing morons. Goes to show they needed to follow a bpa approach.


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Boston. Burnt multiple assets for a starting PG in Kyrie then Walker. Couldn't get out of the East.

Also Boston. Got rid of all their luxury PGs and gave Marcus Smart the job. Made it to the Finals for the first time in 10 years.
 
jom2003 said:
Boston. Burnt multiple assets for a starting PG in Kyrie then Walker. Couldn't get out of the East.

Also Boston. Got rid of all their luxury PGs and gave Marcus Smart the job. Made it to the Finals for the first time in 10 years.
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Did they also trade Fultz for Tatum? Boston started hoarding wings and I seem to remember they took some flak for not taking Fultz. I don't remember exactly, but that move seemed to have worked out pretty well.
 
jom2003 said:
If you put it that way then the handling of starting PG position was just as damaging. Investing multiple FRPs(one of which was a lottery pick) on PG rentals that each have only produced no more than two good seasons of basketball, especially when teams have showed that you can win without one.
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I'm aware of that, but getting two seasons of Ricky, 1 with Hill, and two good seasons of Conley over that period for the 4 picks (and also the Exum pick I guess) is better than getting a half season of good Favs for 3 FRPs. We also invested in guys that were starters and not trying to backup a position we filled with a 30-40M a year cornerstone.

The process/logic has to be sound for me. If you need a starting point guard and use some draft capital to get them then it at least makes some sense. The amount of capital allocated to a backup position while adding no variance is staggering... to fail to address the need is just incredible.
 
Jazzman12 said:
I’ve been a devout Jazz fan for 36 years, and I feel like after all of that time of unwavering support and money spent, it’s fair to say they owe me 1 favor.

Well, I’m ready to cash that favor in and I want it to be at least 1 season of Patrick Beverly in a Jazz uni! Please!
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You know Bev would be up Don's *** when he played ****** defense at least.
 
bill simmons trade value column - this is a homeless man's version of those he used to do back in the 00s, but while one can quibble with a few of his placements, it's pretty representative of reality, imo. though i think you'd struggle to pry LeBron away from LAL in spite of his age - i'd probably put him in group C, D or E.

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NBA Trade Value List: Summer 2022 Edition

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Mongoose said:
Did they also trade Fultz for Tatum? Boston started hoarding wings and I seem to remember they took some flak for not taking Fultz. I don't remember exactly, but that move seemed to have worked out pretty well.
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Lakers won a chip with Caruso as their starring PG.

I know there's Curry but fancy PGs usually can't get the job done. CP3 who's the absolute ceiling of a traditional PG was mocked for struggling to get out of the second round. t's definitely a wings league.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'm aware of that, but getting two seasons of Ricky, 1 with Hill, and two good seasons of Conley over that period for the 4 picks (and also the Exum pick I guess) is better than getting a half season of good Favs for 3 FRPs. We also invested in guys that were starters and not trying to backup a position we filled with a 30-40M a year cornerstone.

The process/logic has to be sound for me. If you need a starting point guard and use some draft capital to get them then it at least makes some sense. The amount of capital allocated to a backup position while adding no variance is staggering... to fail to address the need is just incredible.
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But it also doesn't make sense when they were talking about how they played positionless basketball. If that really was the case then they did fill the PG position with a 30-40M a year cornerstone in Don. There are plenty of ball handlers the jazz could have went with that weren't strictly PG's.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
bill simmons trade value column - this is a homeless man's version of those he used to do back in the 00s, but while one can quibble with a few of his placements, it's pretty representative of reality, imo. though i think you'd struggle to pry LeBron away from LAL in spite of his age - i'd probably put him in group C, D or E.

www.theringer.com

NBA Trade Value List: Summer 2022 Edition

It’s back! As summer league winds down and the NBA finally hits its true offseason, Bill Simmons takes stock of the league, breaking down the 64 most valuable trade assets heading into 2022-23.
www.theringer.com www.theringer.com
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I would disagree with a bunch of his stuff here but its hard to do.
 
Mongoose said:
But it also doesn't make sense when they were talking about how they played positionless basketball. If that really was the case then they did fill the PG position with a 30-40M a year cornerstone in Don. There are plenty of ball handlers the jazz could have went with that weren't strictly PG's.
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You can also play multiple pgs though. I was one of the guys touting Donovan as a "pg" early. Like it still makes way more sense than burning all that **** on centers... none of which could shoot or projected as shooters.
 
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