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Game Thread Feb 01, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Raptors

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JazzFever said:
Its an interesting contradiction- the desire for 'moneyball' five-out style playing with high volume threes, also dictates that the whole mid-range game goes away in favor of close up shots- which leaves an opening for a traditional big like Kessler to make a large impact when teams try to force the ball inside for close up shots.

I'm curious how quickly Kessler gets the Gobert treatment where they abandon the inside altogether and just settle for mid-range or force him off the court with full five out play. I suspect Kessler is nimble enough that five-out isn't going to force him off the floor.
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I think Kessler will be able to punish small ball on the offensive end. Also, almost all of the best teams in the league currently start a traditional Center.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I think Kessler will be able to punish small ball on the offensive end. Also, almost all of the best teams in the league currently start a traditional Center.
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Yep, that is the main problem Rudy had, he was getting to the point where he was able to defend the perimeter alright, but not being able to take advantage of mismatches inside was just disheartening and kept the Jazz from going to the next level.
 
vegas said:
Mike was fired up tonight. Never seen him like that. I think we were getting no love toward the end from the refs and it pissed him right off.

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Yeah- lots of game balls to go around. Kessler was obviously fantastic, Lauri pulled it together after a slow start, Mike was making amazing passes, showing lots of emotion and sniping shots. Young Bull had some amazingly athletic moves- loved how he shoved a much bigger player out of the way on a clear out without getting a call against him. Lots of emotion from him- I really, really don't want to trade him now- LOVE his passion for winning. Agbaji closed out the game on the floor and had some nifty plays. Vando did some good things. Clarkson overcame turnover problems to make some important end of game buckets. Gay even played well enough to not make me want to tear my eyes out of their sockets when he was on the court...
 
Clips should be begging us for Mike. He’s playing so well… would be huge for them. I also would like to see Sexton in extended run but if they aren’t giving something solid I guess we just keep him.
 
JazzFever said:
Its an interesting contradiction- the desire for 'moneyball' five-out style playing with high volume threes, also dictates that the whole mid-range game goes away in favor of close up shots- which leaves an opening for a traditional big like Kessler to make a large impact when teams try to force the ball inside for close up shots.

I'm curious how quickly Kessler gets the Gobert treatment where they abandon the inside altogether and just settle for mid-range or force him off the court with full five out play. I suspect Kessler is nimble enough that five-out isn't going to force him off the floor.
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I heard somewhere recently (it wasn't Locke) that When Kessler is on the floor, not only is there a huge drop in opponent's shot percentage at the rim, but that teams are shooting 4%, on average, worse from midrange as well. That generally isn't a thing.
 
framer said:
I heard somewhere recently (it wasn't Locke) that When Kessler is on the floor, not only is there a huge drop in opponent's shot percentage at the rim, but that teams are shooting 4%, on average, worse from midrange as well. That generally isn't a thing.
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That's probably because when we play a three big lineup with Kessler under the rim, Lauri & co can be more aggressive contesting midrangers, knowing Walker is there and guys are not really looking to drive.
 
Watching the Raptors is rough, I'm glad I'm not a Raptors fan. They don't have any half court offense, and their defense is based on getting turnovers. If we played a little smarter we should have won by a lot more.

It reminds me a little bit of the old NES ice hockey game, where you can choose from a skinny fast guy that is easy to push down, a slow fat guy who is difficult to push down, and a medium guy. The secret to the game was picking all medium guys. It feels like the Raptors front office played that game too much and don't want to play with any big guys or little guys (except FVV).

It kind of feels like they are hoarding all of the big athletic wings so that nobody else can use them. I think the Raptors could be a great team if they traded in some of their plethora of super sought after wings for some bigs and guards. Like they could probably go get Jacob Poeltl and Malik Beasley and be a much more balanced team.
 
JazzFever said:
Yeah- lots of game balls to go around. Kessler was obviously fantastic, Lauri pulled it together after a slow start, Mike was making amazing passes, showing lots of emotion and sniping shots. Young Bull had some amazingly athletic moves- loved how he shoved a much bigger player out of the way on a clear out without getting a call against him. Lots of emotion from him- I really, really don't want to trade him now- LOVE his passion for winning. Agbaji closed out the game on the floor and had some nifty plays. Vando did some good things. Clarkson overcame turnover problems to make some important end of game buckets. Gay even played well enough to not make me want to tear my eyes out of their sockets when he was on the court...
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If Sexton was like 6'5 he'd be the GOAT
 
SoberasHotRod said:
It reminds me a little bit of the old NES ice hockey game, where you can choose from a skinny fast guy that is easy to push down, a slow fat guy who is difficult to push down, and a medium guy. The secret to the game was picking all medium guys.
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I’ve never played any hockey, don’t watch or follow, if sports center is talking hockey I turn the channel, but my god that old NES hockey game was a lot of fun to play!! I played that game a lot, very addictive.
 
Gotta admit it was more fun when Lauri and Walker Kessler were still surprising me.
A win with the Finnishing Range and Mike being the good Mike and JC being great in the end... Seen that. Now I am bored. I just get bored... I guess it is good to get ored foor great basketball than for bad one.. :D
 
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