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Roster Building From Here - FA and Summer of 2023

Gay may be valuable for salary matching purposes. I could see Dok as well (I know he's an UFA) but the Jazz could do a sign and trade for matching purposes.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He definitely is not getting bought out, so it would have to be a trade.
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this is not true.... if his primary purpose is for salary matching in a trade later... and you need the roster spot for a player you actually like as a player... then you absolutely buy him out. Just having him around and knowing how bitchy he is when he doesn't play it might be worth a buy out.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
this is not true.... if his primary purpose is for salary matching in a trade later... and you need the roster spot for a player you actually like as a player... then you absolutely buy him out. Just having him around and knowing how bitchy he is when he doesn't play it might be worth a buy out.
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Bitchy? Hardy seems to like him and he seems to have gotten along well with the team this year.
 
The fact is that Rudy seems like he still wants to play basketball, so he isnt going to accept a buyout given the fact I doubt anyone is excited to sign him. He's going to stay on the roster unless traded.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Bitchy? Hardy seems to like him and he seems to have gotten along well with the team this year.
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Yes bitchy... is your head in the sand bruh... its literally in press conferences. Why was he happy this year? Cuz Hardy played him even when it was really really bad. If he is a walking trade exception and isn't in the rotation I am sure he will be a sunny son of a bitch all year.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The fact is that Rudy seems like he still wants to play basketball, so he isnt going to accept a buyout given the fact I doubt anyone is excited to sign him. He's going to stay on the roster unless traded.
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Then you waive him.... ain't hard. He gonna be happy here rotting end of bench? You gonna give him 20 minutes a game next year?
 
The only thing that makes sense is if there is a big name free agent we cant afford unless we waive and stretch Gay. If that doesnt exist, they are just going to hold onto him as a trade piece for matching.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Why not just waive him this past season if that was the plan?
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Because there is an extra year on the deal. If you get through the summer and haven't used his contract in a deal then you go ahead and call it... unless you plan on playing him.

We were also inches away from the tax and have infinity cap space next year... so completely different scenarios. Its pretty obvious.
 
THT is definitely opting out. Why would he opt in with no guaranteed minutes next year? He should capitalize on his good play this year and try to get a 4/60M deal or something around there.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Because there is an extra year on the deal. If you get through the summer and haven't used his contract in a deal then you go ahead and call it... unless you plan on playing him.

We were also inches away from the tax and have infinity cap space next year... so completely different scenarios. Its pretty obvious.
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So if the plan is to use him in a deal, why not wait til the deadline?
 
Elizah Huge said:
THT is definitely opting out. Why would he opt in with no guaranteed minutes next year? He should capitalize on his good play this year and try to get a 4/60M deal or something around there.
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Because he just had the best year of his career on a team that wants to develop him and more teams will have cap-space next season.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Because he just had the best year of his career on a team that wants to develop him and more teams will have cap-space next season.
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We’re going to guarantee THT minutes next year? Only reason he even got to play as much as he did because we traded Conley and Sexton got hurt. What if we draft a PG and a wing (which is likely)? Not much minutes to go around for THT.
 
Elizah Huge said:
We’re going to guarantee THT minutes next year? Only reason he even got to play as much as he did because we traded Conley and Sexton got hurt. What if we draft a PG and a wing (which is likely)? Not much minutes to go around for THT.
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I mean, he's going to have to earn his minutes, but he's going to have the opportunity. Hardy likes him.

Maybe he can find that team with cap-space. From what I can tell those teams are Houston (terrible place for him to go for his career), San Antonio (could be interesting), OKC (could also be interesting, but also a lot of minutes competition), Detroit (****ing awful place to go developmentally), Indiana (could work, but a lot of minutes competition at the guard spots), Orlando (also could work, but a lot of guard minutes competition). Is he going to leave 10 million on the table to chase a long-term MLE deal from someone else? Doubt it.

I think everyone else is over the cap? Lakers could free up space, but they are going after Kyrie and if they can't get him they will probably just run in back and re-sign Russell?

I don't see any team that is a clear fit for THT. Why not stick with the team that is showing it can advance your career and go into a more wide open free agent class? Maybe Utah decides they dont want to go after any big name FA and they work out a deal where THT opts out and they come to a long-term deal they both like. I just dont see him leaving Utah at this point. I think he likes Utah. The dude talks to David Locke.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean, he's going to have to earn his minutes, but he's going to have the opportunity. Hardy likes him.

Maybe he can find that team with cap-space. From what I can tell those teams are Houston (terrible place for him to go for his career), San Antonio (could be interesting), OKC (could also be interesting, but also a lot of minutes competition), Detroit (****ing awful place to go developmentally), Indiana (could work, but a lot of minutes competition at the guard spots), Orlando (also could work, but a lot of guard minutes competition). Is he going to leave 10 million on the table to chase a long-term MLE deal from someone else? Doubt it.

I think everyone else is over the cap? Lakers could free up space, but they are going after Kyrie and if they can't get him they will probably just run in back and re-sign Russell?

I don't see any team that is a clear fit for THT. Why not stick with the team that is showing it can advance your career and go into a more wide open free agent class? Maybe Utah decides they dont want to go after any big name FA and they work out a deal where THT opts out and they come to a long-term deal they both like. I just dont see him leaving Utah at this point. I think he likes Utah. The dude talks to David Locke.
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The MLE next year is more money than what THT would get paid next year by opting in. He could sign a 4/48M deal on the MLE with a team or even a 3/35M.

I could be wrong and he might just love being here and I think him opting in would be a bargain for us and he could be a valuable trade piece to make salary match. I just don’t see it happening.
 
Jingled said:
So... Locke thinks we're going to be really bad next season...like 24 or 25 wins bad.
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If we traded Lauri maybe. We will want to give the Thunder the pick we owe… next years draft is not likely a good one.

Locke doesn’t know… he ran some ducking simulation of “point gains brought to you by Built Bars” and thinks the pelicans are the best team in the league or some ****.
 
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