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2023 Trade Rumors and Gossip Involving the Jazz

jom2003 said:
You pay for what you get. You pay them now so they get more return in the long run. You don't pay Kuz & zingis of course you get nothing.

Yes they were late and missed the window completely. But since they were already this late , why not just extend kuz&zingis so they give themselves another window instead of throwing the towel. They were so late that there's simply no point in trading them now cuz they got zero leverage.
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Sometimes nothing is better
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sometimes nothing is better
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Not nothing. They still had to pay Paul, Galo, Muscala and Shamet lmao. It's not like they saved any money this summer. Next few years? Yes. But like I said, extend kuz and zigis now and they can still trade them by next year's trade deadline and save themselves a ton, plus a ton of first round picks.
 
jom2003 said:
Not nothing. They still had to pay Paul, Galo, Muscala and Shamet lmao. It's not like they saved any money this summer. Next few years? Yes. But like I said, extend kuz and zigis now and they can still trade them by next year's trade deadline and save themselves a ton.
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They moved on. Their new GM gets to make his own team. If they did what you want, they'd be stuck in mediocrity for another 3 years.
 
jom2003 said:
Not nothing. They still had to pay Paul, Galo, Muscala and Shamet lmao. It's not like they saved any money this summer. Next few years? Yes. But like I said, extend kuz and zigis now and they can still trade them by next year's trade deadline and save themselves a ton.
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You know there is a salary cap minimum right?
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I’m talking about the dudes you can really market and are the most popular players in the league like a Dame, or Giannis. Those are two dudes in small markets that seem to want to stay put.
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Okay, but, did you read what I just wrote? I get what you mean but in the end they have been holding their teams hostage. And because they stuck around long enough to get super duper max extensions their trade return value is suboptimal.

The other thing you gotta remember with that is that Beal just wanted to be sure he got his bag before leaving. And Dame has dangled himself out there with a contingent trade demand.

Trust me, we won in a big way out of these dynamics. If you’re referring to Donovan, well, whatever. I still believe if we do all the right things good things can happen. Lauri might even be that guy.
 
jom2003 said:
Except they are not? We gave Rudy the Supermax in December 2020 and are we stuck in mediocrity for three years? You can actually trade the guy after his extension. It's not rocket science
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Utah got extremely lucky they found a sucker at the right moment. That has passed. If youre operating in catch up mode you are going to fail.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Utah got extremely lucky they found a sucker at the right moment. That has passed. If youre operating in catch up mode you are going to fail.
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We need to remember that Rudy did have other rumored suitors (Chicago, Dallas made sense on paper, etc.). We just played them off each other until we got the Minne deal.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Utah got extremely lucky they found a sucker at the right moment. That has passed. If youre operating in catch up mode you are going to fail.
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Yes we got lucky because we also gave Rudy the supermax. Are Kuz and Zingis gonna get supermax? If you can trade a guy with supermax, there's no reason you can't trade Kuz & Zingis with just regular max dollar in exchange for positive assets.
 
jom2003 said:
Yes we got lucky because we also gave Rudy the supermax. Are Kuz and Zingis gonna get supermax? If you can trade a guy with supermax, there's no reason you can't trade Kuz & Zingis with just regular max dollar in exchange for positive assets.
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Rudy was a 3x DPOY with multiple all-star and his team won.

Kuz and Zingis dont have that. They would have gotten paid and been huge burdens.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Would sure be great if JC and THT opted in today…
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Would mean they are definitely getting traded lol. Since they still have a week to decide. I hope if we do player options in the future (and I hope we stop) that we move the date up before the draft.
 
At some point Jom may look inward and realize how off he is… but doesn’t seem to be a point we will reach today.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Utah got extremely lucky they found a sucker at the right moment. That has passed. If youre operating in catch up mode you are going to fail.
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Those trades also broke the market. Not just perceptions, either; they materially took two teams’ entire ability to trade 1sts off the board for two years. The scarcer that picks become, the more valuable they are perceived. There’s also a pendulum effect where when momentum swings it might swing too hard. The Jazz trades forced a pendulum swing such that picks might now be overvalued.

TLDR; The Wizards screwed up that situation and sometimes the best thing you can do is just be free of it
 
The Scout: The Jazz haven’t been quite as aggressive as some of the teams above them in looking to move their third first-rounder if only because they do not have any second-rounders and are flexible enough with their roster that they can house three rookies. But they’re willing to take calls about consolidating pick value. Sheppard has risen throughout the process and is seen as a good bet to hear his name called in Round 1.
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From Vecenie's latest mock
 
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