The Paths Forward From Here

[HermanG]

Also what is up with the Keyonte trades?

I mean literally the last game he started and finished before his injury he had 30/7/3 with +5 BPM against OKC... you know... the likely future competition OKC.

Dude is playing the hardest role in basketball exceptionally well for a 19 year old rookie, and some of you want to cut bait?

 

[fishonjazz]

Also, who was available? I mean, Danny could have been leaning to "build around Lauri," but none of those people were available at a price we would have been willing to pay.

Ya I remember hearing that we tried to get that dude from the bucks last off-season (drawing a blank on the name lol)

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[jom2003]

Quickley can easily average 20ppg in the right system. His game is extremely similar to Maxey

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm not saying he should be building around Lauri. Ainge may think he's a Robin, and he may well be right.

But quite a few people seem to think we should be treating Lauri as a centerpiece going forward, and I'm just pointing out that expecting Danny to take such a path is probably futile. He would have made some moves into that direction already if that was his plan.

Or he would be patient and wait to make the best moves into that direction if that was his plan.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

He's got a chance to be an efficient 22+ PPG scorer who is a plus defender and plus shooter. That's worth a lot.

It is but if you overpay in acquisition and on a contract then you are taking the upside out of the deal.

 

[fishonjazz]

An assumption supported by facts. We are not talking about a player in decline. We are talking about a player who's still on the upward trajectory of his development. Despite the poor fit, his shooting actually has improved each year in Atlanta. Now making over 2 threes a game on 37% while possessing one of the league's most deadly midrange jumpers(49% from midrange on the season). And his defense and ability to steal the ball are still there. He simply needs the ball more.

Some players regress and not all players improve.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

It is but if you overpay in acquisition and on a contract then you are taking the upside out of the deal.

Sometimes it's worth it. He would be a guaranteed piece to take you to the playoffs.

 

[fishonjazz]

Also what is up with the Keyonte trades?

I mean literally the last game he started and finished before his injury he had 30/7/3 with +5 BPM against OKC... you know... the likely future competition OKC.

Dude is playing the hardest role in basketball exceptionally well for a 19 year old rookie, and some of you want to cut bait?

This is all true but if you use his entire sample size from college all the way up until his most recent game then he kinda sucks.

There are perfectly legitimate reasons for that and I really like what I see from him in terms of form on his shot, athleticism, size, speed, quickness, and flashes of great play but overall he has kinda sucked.

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Quickley can easily average 20ppg in the right system. His game is extremely similar to Maxey

But he plays defense.

 

[jom2003]

Also what is up with the Keyonte trades?

I mean literally the last game he started and finished before his injury he had 30/7/3 with +5 BPM against OKC... you know... the likely future competition OKC.

Dude is playing the hardest role in basketball exceptionally well for a 19 year old rookie, and some of you want to cut bait?

Hate to break it out to you but most of his points come during garbage minutes against OKC bench/G leaguers. He did make a couple of impressive buckets against Chet though.


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also what is up with the Keyonte trades?

I mean literally the last game he started and finished before his injury he had 30/7/3 with +5 BPM against OKC... you know... the likely future competition OKC.

Dude is playing the hardest role in basketball exceptionally well for a 19 year old rookie, and some of you want to cut bait?

We dont want to but you have to give something to get something.

I guess we can sit here and circle jerk lopsided trades, but sometimes you got to make tough decisions. Keyonte is a ways away at this point. He might never even be as good as Quickley is.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Sometimes it's worth it. He would be a guaranteed piece to take you to the playoffs.

Its a move that would push us towards the play in... just not sure long term that is what you want to spend those resources on. If he is on a max and Lauri is on a max those are your two pillars. How far does that take you? Budget won't allow you to add a whole lot more. You still need a player better than both of them to be any kind of contender.

 

[jom2003]

But he plays defense.

Maxey? You mean the guy who managed to register a negative DBMP in each season while pairing with one of the leagues best defender in Embiid? Quickley's defensive numbers, both basic and advance, were actually better than Maxey's

 

[HermanG]

We dont want to but you have to give something to get something.

I guess we can sit here and circle jerk lopsided trades, but sometimes you got to make tough decisions. Keyonte is a ways away at this point. He might never even be as good as Quickley is.

I get that, but didnt Andy Larsen already list him as the sole untouchable?

If so and if Andy is carrying FOs water, then we probably should theorycraft with him, right?

 

[MT Steve]

I'm not saying he should be building around Lauri. Ainge may think he's a Robin, and he may well be right.

But quite a few people seem to think we should be treating Lauri as a centerpiece going forward, and I'm just pointing out that expecting Danny to take such a path is probably futile. He would have made some moves into that direction already if that was his plan.

It was widely reported that he tried to trade for Jrue Holiday before the season.

 

[Elizah Huge]

It was widely reported that he tried to trade for Jrue Holiday before the season.

He also was in on Lillard talks. We likely have Jrue if he would have committed to an extension.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Its a move that would push us towards the play in... just not sure long term that is what you want to spend those resources on. If he is on a max and Lauri is on a max those are your two pillars. How far does that take you? Budget won't allow you to add a whole lot more. You still need a player better than both of them to be any kind of contender.

If that's your view then just blow it completely up.

 

[Fosto]

I get that, but didnt Andy Larsen already list him as the sole untouchable?

If so and if Andy is carrying FOs water, then we probably should theorycraft with him, right?

I doubt anyone is untouchable.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Maxey? You mean the guy who managed to register a negative DBMP in each season while pairing with one of the leagues best defender in Embiid? Quickley's defensive numbers, both basic and advance, were actually better than Maxey's

No, IQ plays D

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I get that, but didnt Andy Larsen already list him as the sole untouchable?

If so and if Andy is carrying FOs water, then we probably should theorycraft with him, right?

I doubt anyone is untouchable.