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A message to all attending the game Saturday night

I'm interested to see how Dan Roberts handles the introductions. Does he pause after introducing Deron and Memo or does he go into the next player introduction as he would any other team. Hopefully he lets them have extra time between intros, especially if it means they have to ditch the half hour video introduction of the Jazz.
 
I love Jerry Sloan and I love Deron. If I had to choose one, I'd choose Jerry 10 times out of 10 - but it shouldn't be a choice. Two people can go at it and still have your support. Parents can fight and you can still support both of them. Haven't seen a player since Stockton&Malone retired who cared more about winning than Deron (in fact you could even argue he cared too much - to the point losing in 2010-11 had such an effect on him) and isn't that one of the chief complaints about NBA players - that they don't act like they care about winning?

He played hurt, he played great and he never shrunk from the moment. If I was in ESA tonight I'd stand up and cheer when he was introduced.
 
TroutBum said:
Sold it, too. This means free lunch, at the very worst. Pick a day, Kobe lover.
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Lunch my ***! I want beer at the jazz game. Ill let you know when I'm there. I'd rather you call my mom a whore than me s Kobe lover.
 
BluesRocker said:
No way is Deron coming back now
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And he was going to before? Lulz!

He knows Utah fans are passionate, so I'm sure he expected the boos. He also made the comment about Utah saying "that chapter in his life is closed." So there's not a snowball's chance in hell he'd come back. Besides, do we want to pay MAX to a PG?

But let's suppose for a moment there was a chance he would come back if the fams gave him a 5 min standing "O." What message does that send, that because he's a MAX player, he transcends teammates and coaches. He can ignore plays that are called and openly defy a coach? Deron was a cancer last season. Believe what you will about whether or not he was the key reason for Sloan leaving. We know there were multiple incidents between the two; that much WAS reported. Players have also said there was dissension in the locker room. There hasn't been a problem of that kind since Mark Jackson tried to lead a revolt against Sloan, Stockton and the vets back in 2002-03. Fortunately, Larry H. was around to back Jerry up and let it be known Sloan was commander-in-chief. This time, Greg and KOC did NOTHING until Sloan quit. Then they did an about-face and tried to get him to stay. When that failed, I think they finally realized what a complete $#@ Deron was being and decided to trade him before he split the team in half.
 
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Bunch of over emotional women in this fan base! Free agents already don't want to play in Utah and the dumb fans give them even more reason not too. The good Deron did here far outweight the bad.
 
BIGAL said:
Bunch of over emotional women in this fan base! Free agents already don't want to play in Utah and the dumb fans give them even more reason not too. The good Deron did here far outweight the bad.
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This is about the dumbest thing written here. IF the free agent did come to Utah they would no longer get boo'd, they would be getting the cheers. And besides every player in the NBA knows that Utah has one of the best fan bases in all of professional sports. We are some of the most loyal fans to our TEAM. If you honestly think that a player would not come to Utah soley based on the fact that they got boo'd when they were here playing for an opponent, they you sir are lacking major critial thinking skills. Almost every player that has come and played a game here and had to deal with the crowd has mentioned that Utah has the best home court advantage, that the fans are some of the most basketball smart people out there, that we are passionate and very supportive of our team. It would seem to me that most of them respect our fan base, and would love to play for a group of fans like what we have here. There are thousands of quotes out there, hundreds of blog posts, and more.

As for Deron, I for one had first hand knowledge about how moody, grouchy, and prissy he was in the 18 months leading up to Sloan's retirement and Deron's subsequent trade. He started out as representative of what we wanted for our franchise, but by the end, he had gotten some poison into his head about how HE was the superstar, how HE was the reason the team succeeded, and how HE was untouchable. For those of us who were in the know, we had a little joke that KOC's office door had the title "Kevin O'Connor, General Manager, Will do anything to keep Deron Happy". There were many occasions where Deron had indicated he was not happy, one such was when Ronnie Brewer was traded. Ronnie was one of Deron's best friends. The fact that he was traded prompted the "That's why I only signed a 3 year deal" comment. It was not that Ronnie was a superior basketball player, or anthing like that, it was that Ronnie was Deron's friend. Here is also a little food for thought...

Deron knew that we were in financially tough situations with AK's contract, and with all the other deals that we had. Yet he still signed for the max money. He certainly could have taken less money and then told the Jazz to get some additional talent with the money, and they would have been able to do that. But no, that is not what happened. Deron took the money, then whined constantly after that, pitching a fit about the team having to move players to save other money, and not being able to afford talent. Think about that for a while. Back when Stockton played, he never worried about the money, and I would doubt that he ever had a max dollar contract. Stockton would go into Larry's office, tell him to pay him what he thought was fair, and that he just wanted to play basketball. Yes I am aware there will never be another person like him, but lets even take Nash, a current player into account. Even though he is getting pretty good money, he told the fans, the owners, the managers, and all, that he wanted to finish his career with the suns, that he wanted to retire there. I am certain Nash is probably not getting max money anymore, and to him that probably isn't the biggest drama in life. Deron on the other hand never would commit to the team like that, he wanted the money, and then wondered why the team was struggling otherwise. I am just saying, that perhaps had Deron taken a little less with that contract at that time, until the AK deal was gone, and some of the other toxic deals settled out, the team might have been able to afford more high end talent. If he wanted to win so bad, he would have taken much less in order to get better players in. Alas that seems to be the story with many NBA players though, beg for as much money as they can, then wonder why their franchise cannot afford to go get someone else to help.
 
Good post. At the time this happened, the reports were that Sloan wanted to bench Deron at the start of the second half of the Bulls game, but KOC wouldn't allow it. In that case, I wouldn't blame Jerry for leaving. Also, the comment about the three year deal is very similar to what Boozer said about getting a raise regardless, although I can understand that Deron's was more in the heat of the moment but the difference is that Deron made is comment on the record while Boozer thought that his was off the record. These guys are all the same, money rules. I don't blame them frankly, I just don't understand why there are fans that still think certain players care more about winning than money. These guys know how to say the right things when the cameras are rolling, it's a different story behind the scenes.

Deron will NOT leave money on the table. He'll sign an extension, get a sign and trade, or opt in. There's no way he's signing as a free agent and leaving up to $30 million on the table.
 
Williams isn't playing like a MAX guy right now anyway.
6 turnovers for a point guard?
That's pretty horrible...... and we were whining about Harris have 3 or 4.
 
TheSilencer1313 said:
Williams isn't playing like a MAX guy right now anyway.
6 turnovers for a point guard?
That's pretty horrible...... and we were whining about Harris have 3 or 4.
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Its true that Deron is just playing terrible right now. I wonder what the deal is. Because the Deron I remember before last year was one of the best players in the league. He was damn good. I think he will return to form one day
 
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