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And in this telling instance, acknowledgement that his film was a work of fiction.


The conservative media company behind the book and film “2,000 Mules,” which alleged a widespread conspiracy by Democrats to steal the 2020 election and was embraced by former President Donald Trump, has issued an apology and said it would halt distribution of the film and remove both the film and book from its platforms.

In a statement posted to their website, Salem Media Group, Inc. apologized specifically to Mark Andrews, a voter from Georgia falsely depicted illegally voting in “2,000 Mules.”

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation cleared Andrews of wrongdoing, and found he was legally dropping off ballots for members of his family. Andrews filed a defamation lawsuit against Salem, as well as the team behind the movie: right wing commentator Dinesh D’Souza, and the group True the Vote.

Though “2,000 Mules” has been widely debunked by law enforcement officials and the media, including NPR, the film and book developed a widespread following among supporters of the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen.

How odd. I’ve been assured by certain members here that 2,000 Mules is about fraud. So you’re telling me it’s ********?

2,000 Mules is about fraud. That isn't what I'm saying. The changes made to the system advantage population density. The bias introduced by the changes is strong enough that exurbs and rural areas might as well not have votes at all. A voter in the suburbs is worth about a third as much as a voter in urban areas. Voters in places like apartment buildings and dormitories are the most valuable.

The names, addresses, and party affiliations of voters are known. If ballot harvesting is allowed then it becomes a race of how many of your voters, as identified on the list printed out for you, can you reach per hour. There will be pockets here and there that could go the other way but across an entire state, the party of the urban centers will win that race 100% of the time.
I guess the forum’s idiot was right about one thing, 2,000 Mules is about fraud. Just not the fraud he thought. MAGA, the grift that keeps on giving because morons like Al keep buying what the grifters keep selling.
 
How odd. I’ve been assured by certain members here that 2,000 Mules is about fraud.
That movie was about fraud, and it wasn't in line with what I believed happened.

2,000 Mules is about fraud. That isn't what I'm saying.

I've never written a word in support of that movie. I can tell that you really hoped I had and you had some sort of gotcha, but no. I am curious though as to when you could only find the only post in which I mentioned the movie was to say that I didn't think that was how things went down, why you continued with posting my 'W'.

I guess the forum’s idiot was right
For an idiot, I seem to get an awful lot correct.
 
And in this telling instance, acknowledgement that his film was a work of fiction.


The conservative media company behind the book and film “2,000 Mules,” which alleged a widespread conspiracy by Democrats to steal the 2020 election and was embraced by former President Donald Trump, has issued an apology and said it would halt distribution of the film and remove both the film and book from its platforms.

In a statement posted to their website, Salem Media Group, Inc. apologized specifically to Mark Andrews, a voter from Georgia falsely depicted illegally voting in “2,000 Mules.”

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation cleared Andrews of wrongdoing, and found he was legally dropping off ballots for members of his family. Andrews filed a defamation lawsuit against Salem, as well as the team behind the movie: right wing commentator Dinesh D’Souza, and the group True the Vote.

Though “2,000 Mules” has been widely debunked by law enforcement officials and the media, including NPR, the film and book developed a widespread following among supporters of the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen.
But of course.

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Won't let me read the article lol. Have to pay.
This utter contrived farce can only occur if trump sleeps with a pornstar, tells his lawyer to pay her off to keep quiet, pays off owners of media companies to kill negative stories, and falsified the documentation of the payments.

But rather than blame trump for the contrived farce you blame the Democrats or something. That's kind of a farce itself. I can smell your trump cologne from all the way across the pond

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good grief Anything you disagree with is automatically something you have to categorise as MAGA ?? **** me
 
Someone with 10 contempt of court incidents, no remorse and the potential to offend again would generally get a harsher sentence. In this case that would indeed mean prison time. Of course this is a "first offense," non-violent, and the perpetrator is 77. That would typically mean a sentence on the low end, so likely based on that alone, some type of probation. With the contempt and lack of remorse I think a normal person would do a few months in jail.

Trump is not going to do time for this. I'd say zero percent chance he does even serious house arrest.

i disagree I think the Judge with give him time. Will be interesting to see.
 
But of course.

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pretty funny considering i don't use Twitter, Tik Tok or any such type of social media. I just read a lot and look at a bunch of different sources left and right. That source was CNN soooo... ya far right looney eh

Most people in these threads both sides are entirely incapable of actual seeing and thinking about each issue at a time on it's merits.
 
good grief Anything you disagree with is automatically something you have to categorise as MAGA ?? **** me
Nah I'm seeing a pattern.

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pretty funny considering i don't use Twitter, Tik Tok or any such type of social media. I just read a lot and look at a bunch of different sources left and right. That source was CNN soooo... ya far right looney eh

Most people in these threads both sides are entirely incapable of actual seeing and thinking about each issue at a time on it's merits.
The post you quoted from me had nothing to do with you at all

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pretty funny considering i don't use Twitter, Tik Tok or any such type of social media. I just read a lot and look at a bunch of different sources left and right. That source was CNN soooo... ya far right looney eh

Most people in these threads both sides are entirely incapable of actual seeing and thinking about each issue at a time on it's merits.
When was the last time Douche argued a current issue from the left’s perspective?
 
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Is that because you think the judge is biased and has it out for Trump?

if you mean the judge that has literally donated to Biden, from the article i posted by CNN's head legal analyst - "The judge donated money — a tiny amount, $35, but in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations of any kind — to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation, including funds that the judge earmarked for “resisting the Republican Party and Donald Trump’s radical right-wing legacy.”

dunno man you tell me if you then think the judge is biased ? How tf did the judge not recuse himself ?

Trump may or may not be guilty i dunno but there's a bunch of FACTS such as those that would invalidate the verdict on appeal. Personally i'd like to see him in jail for the January 6 stuff, but it's pretty concerning that so many people are happy to overlook due process of law to get to that point with this case.
 
Nah I'm seeing a pattern.

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lol yes like i mentioned that you can't take the blinkers off to think and look at detail when it comes to some of this stuff and feel the need to label anyone who plays devils advocate or try to point out anything you don't agree with as a "trumpian"
 
if you mean the judge that has literally donated to Biden, from the article i posted by CNN's head legal analyst - "The judge donated money — a tiny amount, $35, but in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations of any kind — to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation, including funds that the judge earmarked for “resisting the Republican Party and Donald Trump’s radical right-wing legacy.”

dunno man you tell me if you then think the judge is biased ? How tf did the judge not recuse himself ?

Trump may or may not be guilty i dunno but there's a bunch of FACTS such as those that would invalidate the verdict on appeal. Personally i'd like to see him in jail for the January 6 stuff, but it's pretty concerning that so many people are happy to overlook due process of law to get to that point with this case.
Okay, I mean I don't think that's what's going to happen. If this judge wanted Trump to spend some time in jail he could have done it justifiably for multiple contempt of court instances.
 
Okay, I mean I don't think that's what's going to happen. If this judge wanted Trump to spend some time in jail he could have done it justifiably for multiple contempt of court instances.

sure Dunno i just think the prosecutor will ask for time and the Judge will give him at least a suspended sentence
 
sure Dunno i just think the prosecutor will ask for time and the Judge will give him at least a suspended sentence
Ohh, well a suspended sentence isn't jail time. I'd consider house arrest as "time" but just barely.

I've got to admit though, if the judge was like "20 years starting right now... bailiff" while making a shooing gesture to Trump would probably be a most enjoyable experience. If I could pick, I'd pick that one.
 
if you mean the judge that has literally donated to Biden, from the article i posted by CNN's head legal analyst - "The judge donated money — a tiny amount, $35, but in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations of any kind — to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation, including funds that the judge earmarked for “resisting the Republican Party and Donald Trump’s radical right-wing legacy.”

dunno man you tell me if you then think the judge is biased ? How tf did the judge not recuse himself ?

Trump may or may not be guilty i dunno but there's a bunch of FACTS such as those that would invalidate the verdict on appeal. Personally i'd like to see him in jail for the January 6 stuff, but it's pretty concerning that so many people are happy to overlook due process of law to get to that point with this case.

Here we go again.
Who is overlooking the due process of law? There was a trail. Trump had a defense team of expensive lawyers. The trial took many weeks with a ton of evidence and witnesses and testimony. A jury of randoms, that trumps lawyers were cool with, unanimously found the defendant guilty due to the evidence and testimony provided.

Yet you ALWAYS give trump the benefit of the doubt.

I defend our justice system and rule of law that literally just took place in front of our eyes (though if it were an average Joe like me I would have had to spend some time in jail if I behaved like trump).

You just want to defend trump.

I defend the due process of law. You defend trump.

The pattern continues and lengthens.

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Here we go again.
Who is overlooking the due process of law? There was a trail. Trump had a defense team of expensive lawyers. The trial took many weeks with a ton of evidence and witnesses and testimony. A jury of randoms, that trumps lawyers were cool with, unanimously found the defendant guilty due to the evidence and testimony provided.

Yet you ALWAYS give trump the benefit of the doubt.

I defend our justice system and rule of law that literally just took place in front of our eyes (though if it were an average Joe like me I would have had to spend some time in jail if I behaved like trump).

You just want to defend trump.

I defend the due process of law. You defend trump.

The pattern continues and lengthens.

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I'm super biased against Trump. I know that about myself, it's not a secret to people I talk about this kind of stuff with. I pretty much used this trial to test my perception about the reality of what Trump is. I'll use the next one and the next one the same way.

If this had been a full acquittal I would have told myself that I need to question certain things and sources more and listen to some others more closely. That's how I navigate my life. Constant course corrections, seldom hard turns. If that jury said "not guilty" to every single charge I'd admit to myself that I got this one wrong and now I need to know how and why I got it wrong. I did that a lot after Trump was elected. I remember reassuring some people that "we would never do that." I was wrong, we did that. I've tried to understand why we did that. But I'm biased so I tend towards certain answers.

12 jurors spent weeks listening to testimony and being presented with evidence. There was room to say okay yeah guilty on this but we'll say not guilty on that, largely because Trump signed some of the checks and he didn't sign others. That could have been an easy middle ground, especially if the jury was split. That's what I would have put money on happening.

12 people agreed on each of 34 different counts.

I was wrong. I was so biased I auto-corrected the other way, basically giving a handicap to my fears. There has been so little satisfaction in regard to holding Trump accountable that I assumed the injustice would continue.
 
Trump has been a douchebag for about 4 decades now. A famous douchebag for much of that time. TV show, movies, pop culture, miss America pageants, real estate stuff, his charity, his university, etc.

Then he becomes president. He says and does all the crap he did for his 4 year term. He does January 6th.

Now he is quite literally the most famous person on the planet. More famous, than Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, LeBron James, the Pope, Taylor Swift. And WAY more polarizing than any of them.

So now he can go to someone's house and murder the whole family and be on video doing it and have them victims blood all over him and be holding the murder weapon when he is arrested.

Due to his fame and polarizing nature we find out that the cop that arrested him made a Facebook post saying they wished trump would drop dead. So now the weapon and blood was planted on him by a crooked cop.
The video was doctored. Does the judge love trump or hate him? It's almost certainly one or the other so depending on which the judge was biased for him or against him.

I mean that has been trumps defense in this trial. The judge is biased. It's a political farce. Etc etc.

This is not the first time that was his defense.

Did you know the Emmys were biased against his TV show The Apprentice?

Did you know that Time magazine was biased against him for man of the year?

The court was biased against him for Trump University and for the trump foundation.

Court was biased against him in the jean e Carroll case.

Court was biased against him in the trump organization case.

Courts were biased against him in all 60+ stop the steal cases.

Judge Cannon is the judge presiding over one of Trump's cases. She was appointed by trump. Is there any problem there?

If the supreme Court overturns the conviction when 3 of the judges are trumps judges is there any problem there?

Basically trump can commit any crime at any time and then bitch about bias if he doesn't like how it's going and never trumpers get to bitch if the result is favorable for him.

It's ****ing retarded

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if you mean the judge that has literally donated to Biden, from the article i posted by CNN's head legal analyst - "The judge donated money — a tiny amount, $35, but in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations of any kind — to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation, including funds that the judge earmarked for “resisting the Republican Party and Donald Trump’s radical right-wing legacy.”

dunno man you tell me if you then think the judge is biased ? How tf did the judge not recuse himself ?

Trump may or may not be guilty i dunno but there's a bunch of FACTS such as those that would invalidate the verdict on appeal. Personally i'd like to see him in jail for the January 6 stuff, but it's pretty concerning that so many people are happy to overlook due process of law to get to that point with this case.
What due process was violated?

Since you read credible information from both the left and right, you should know that the judge reported his $35 dollar contribution to an ethics panel. They reviewed it and deemed that it wasn’t a concern. Donald’s own lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said he had “no issue … whatsoever” with the judge overseeing this case. New York Supreme Court Judge Juan Merchan “has a very good reputation,” Tacopina told CNN.


Perhaps… just perhaps… Trump is just a big liar, is lying about the judge being biased, and was just plain guilty of crimes? It’s not like this is the first time he or his organization have been found to be guilty. Trump seems to have a lot of felons around him. Shouldn’t surprise anyone if he too were a felon. Why must we work overtime to defend him?
 
Here we go again.
Who is overlooking the due process of law? There was a trail. Trump had a defense team of expensive lawyers. The trial took many weeks with a ton of evidence and witnesses and testimony. A jury of randoms, that trumps lawyers were cool with, unanimously found the defendant guilty due to the evidence and testimony provided.

Yet you ALWAYS give trump the benefit of the doubt.

I defend our justice system and rule of law that literally just took place in front of our eyes (though if it were an average Joe like me I would have had to spend some time in jail if I behaved like trump).

You just want to defend trump.

I defend the due process of law. You defend trump.

The pattern continues and lengthens.

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oh good lord If you can actually read i've posted that he should be in jail for January 6 and in serious trouble for the classified documents case. This particular one is the only one that i've pointed out i think is ridiculous and yet i "always defend trump" Dude you hate him so much (which is fair enough) that you have just lost any ability to think rationally. If you lose the proper due process just to stop someone who probably did this thing and a bunch of others you are diminishing your country. Do you really think all trials are the same and equally as fair and balanced ?? Here's what the legal expert wrote : If you'd care to take the time to actually dwell on what he has had to say which also many other commentators on both sides of the aisle have

"By any reasonable measure, the jury of Manhattanites who yesterday found former president Donald Trump guilty on all 34 charges did its job, and did it well.

They took on a civic duty from which many others fled; during jury selection, when Judge Juan Merchan allowed potential jurors who did not want to serve essentially to walk out the door, over half the assembled pool headed straight for the exits. The jurors sat through six weeks of testimony, they were by all accounts attentive throughout the trial, and they asked precise, insightful questions of the judge during deliberations. Nobody’s truly in position to say if the jury got it right or wrong; they saw the evidence and we didn’t — most of us, that is, including those like me who followed every line of testimony as it happened; there’s no substitute for seeing it play out live. Reasonable minds could have come out either way, and this jury found that the prosecution carried its burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The jury’s work, and their verdict, deserve respect.

But that doesn’t mean that every structural infirmity around the Manhattan district attorney’s case has evaporated. Both of these things can be true at once: The jury did its job, and this case was an ill-conceived, unjustified mess. Sure, victory is the great deodorant, but a guilty verdict doesn’t make it all pure and right. Plenty of prosecutors have won plenty of convictions in cases that shouldn’t have been brought in the first place. “But they won” is no defense to a strained, convoluted reach unless the goal is to “win,” now, by any means necessary and worry about the credibility of the case and the fallout later.

The following are all undeniable facts.

The judge donated money — a tiny amount, $35, but in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations of any kind — to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation, including funds that the judge earmarked for “resisting the Republican Party and Donald Trump’s radical right-wing legacy.” Would folks have been just fine with the judge staying on the case if he had donated a couple bucks to “Re-elect Donald Trump, MAGA forever!”? Absolutely not.

District Attorney Alvin Bragg ran for office in an overwhelmingly Democratic county by touting his Trump-hunting prowess. He bizarrely (and falsely) boasted on the campaign trail, “It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.” (Disclosure: Both Bragg and Trump’s lead counsel, Todd Blanche, are friends and former colleagues of mine at the Southern District of New York.)

Most importantly, the DA’s charges against Trump push the outer boundaries of the law and due process. That’s not on the jury. That’s on the prosecutors who chose to bring the case and the judge who let it play out as it did.

The district attorney’s press office and its flaks often proclaim that falsification of business records charges are “commonplace” and, indeed, the office’s “bread and butter.” That’s true only if you draw definitional lines so broad as to render them meaningless. Of course the DA charges falsification quite frequently; virtually any fraud case involves some sort of fake documentation.

But when you impose meaningful search parameters, the truth emerges: The charges against Trump are obscure, and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever. Even putting aside the specifics of election law, the Manhattan DA itself almost never brings any case in which falsification of business records is the only charge.

Standing alone, falsification charges would have been mere misdemeanors under New York law, which posed two problems for the DA. First, nobody cares about a misdemeanor, and it would be laughable to bring the first-ever charge against a former president for a trifling offense that falls within the same technical criminal classification as shoplifting a Snapple and a bag of Cheetos from a bodega. Second, the statute of limitations on a misdemeanor — two years — likely has long expired on Trump’s conduct, which dates to 2016 and 2017.

So, to inflate the charges up to the lowest-level felony (Class E, on a scale of Class A through E) — and to electroshock them back to life within the longer felony statute of limitations — the DA alleged that the falsification of business records was committed “with intent to commit another crime.” Here, according to prosecutors, the “another crime” is a New York State election-law violation, which in turn incorporates three separate “unlawful means”: federal campaign crimes, tax crimes, and falsification of still more documents. Inexcusably, the DA refused to specify what those unlawful means actually were — and the judge declined to force them to pony up — until right before closing arguments. So much for the constitutional obligation to provide notice to the defendant of the accusations against him in advance of trial. (This, folks, is what indictments are for.)

In these key respects, the charges against Trump aren’t just unusual. They’re bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else.

The Manhattan DA’s employees reportedly have called this the “Zombie Case” because of various legal infirmities, including its bizarre charging mechanism. But it’s better characterized as the Frankenstein Case, cobbled together with ill-fitting parts into an ugly, awkward, but more-or-less functioning contraption that just might ultimately turn on its creator.

Trump will appeal, as is his right, and he’s certain to contest the inventive charges constructed by the DA. I won’t go so far as to say an appeals court is likely to overturn a conviction — New York law is broad and hazy enough to (potentially) allow such machinations — but he’s going to have a decent shot at a reversal.

“No man is above the law.” It’s become cliché, but it’s an important point, and it’s worth pausing to reflect on the importance of this core principle. But it’s also meaningless pablum if we unquestioningly tolerate (or worse, celebrate) deviations from ordinary process and principle to get there. The jury’s word is indeed sacrosanct, as I learned long ago. But it can’t fix everything that preceded it. Here, prosecutors got their man, for now at least — but they also contorted the law in an unprecedented manner in their quest to snare their prey"


this is not the rambling of "Trump cologne" or MAGA blah blah It beggars belief that intelligent people either don't know this or just are willing to overlook it just to "get Trump" There's plenty to legitimately get him on without making a mockery of the system. If you can't acknowledge these details you're just not a serious person. Or you're just one of Thrillers "partisan hacks"
 
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