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Ron Mexico said:
Not me. I think they did very solid. Built assets, drafted well, developed some players well, kept flexibility, and didn't waste any assets. Also did not completely **** our team by going scorched earth. We have a borderline all NBA player that's a unicorn and easy to build around with a million picks plus a handful of very young players with solid upside.

We could not have tanked more the first year. The team surprised us and played better than expected and we got a great player emerge that's worth way more than any pick that year besides the very low chance at #1. After the break we fully tanked which is the only time we could have. We got great players that are arguably just as valuable as anyone after the first pick.

This year we went into the year with the same team that lost a ton. The only way we could have been worse was trading away Lauri, which is really stupid. Also this years draft at the top sucks and it isn't worth it. But we did move up as much as possible at the end and got extra assets to do it.

Jazz did a great job.
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All that is why I’m happy. But we could’ve been further in the rebuild had we ranked better. It seemed we were stuck between making the play in and tanking
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
All that is why I’m happy. But we could’ve been further in the rebuild had we ranked better. It seemed we were stuck between making the play in and tanking
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I assume you mean tanked. So who is this player that would have improved us? Outside of the top pick last year, so far no one has proven to be better than our picks and moving our rebuild faster. I don't see it making any difference last year outside of extreme luck to get #1. This year the draft isn't top heavy. It likely won't matter either and if we really want to move up for someone we think will matter it seems pretty easy this year.
 
infection said:
I feel like we sold our house that we had on 2.875% interest, and now we feel more rich because our bank account is holding all that money and it looks sexy, but now we can’t get into a house at 6+% interest and an inflated market, and the value of our money is being diminished by inflation while housing prices are skyrocketing.

But dat cash doe.
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I guess by that analogy Donovan was a house we were behind on payments so the bank was going to repo/he was leaving.

Gobert was the house too expensive to renovate and getting old. He was a huge contract, getting old, and not someone we could rebuild around. He needed stars next to him and lots of great role players to do something.

So yeah, I'll take the cash 10/10 times in those scenarios.

Either way we can just sit back and draft until we land someone who is a huge difference maker, which is seemingly the way to go and those players are coming from all over the draft lately. Or we can use a chunk for that and have a ton to trade when it opens up. Owning a lot of the picks helps them be more valuable since it thins the market. Supply/demand.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
IDK if I would say I'm high on what's happening, but it's undoubtedly one of the most interesting stages of the franchise with the amount of options the Jazz have available to them.
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I think they have less options than they did a year ago since they are both farther away from being good (they were legitimately bad down the stretch, far worse than the previous year) AND have fewer liquid assets to build/play with. And the half-assed tank in ‘22-‘23 in particular really is borderline unforgivable.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I think they have less options than they did a year ago since they are both farther away from being good (they were legitimately bad down the stretch, far worse than the previous year) AND have fewer liquid assets to build/play with. And the half-assed tank in ‘22-‘23 in particular really is borderline unforgivable.
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I mean we didn't have the two extra picks we are using this year before the trade deadline and we used last year's picks pretty well. They have more value now than they did as picks. Not sure what you mean by less options. . .
 
framer said:
I mean we didn't have the two extra picks we are using this year before the trade deadline and we used last year's picks pretty well. They have more value now than they did as picks. Not sure what you mean by less options. . .
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I know rookies as a rule are not good but our rookies weren’t exactly sterling (one all-rookie team selection out of three picks which is basically the odds of a first rounder getting on one of the all-rookie teams).

I tend to think unless you hit really well that the value of rookies vs that of a pick is like the value of a car new vs just driven off the lot. I know I think of other teams’ rookies that way. And I know I still have real questions about how they all develop.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Also it's funny to me how low a lot of people are on this message board about the Jazz. For me I haven't been this high about the Jazz since we beat OKC in the playoffs. I feel like we're in a really great spot right now.
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This. The doomers are definitely loud in here when in reality they dont even have a proper case to make.

Impatience is why.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I’m not down on them but I hate how they’ve handled the last two years.
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Option A: They manage to build a contender using current key players.

Option B: they dont get the guys they need and pivot to proper tanking.

Had they committed to B two years ago A wouldnt be possible. However if they decided to commit to B now they would do it with even more riches and with young prospects already growing on the roster (at the start of 2022-23 they didnt have that).

So at the very worst they have only wasted time these past two years. That is the cost of keeping their options open.
 
Y'all we will have to pay players big contracts at some point, the cap is rising. Got to let go of the sticker shock
 
The GOAT Mario Hezonja is looking to make an NBA return. He actually became a good defender in the NBA but couldn't shoot for ****. Was a great shooter the past two years for Real Madrid. 29 years old, worth a look?
 
KqWIN said:
The GOAT Mario Hezonja is looking to make an NBA return. He actually became a good defender in the NBA but couldn't shoot for ****. Was a great shooter the past two years for Real Madrid. 29 years old, worth a look?
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Why not. We suck and have to take chances.
 
KqWIN said:
The GOAT Mario Hezonja is looking to make an NBA return. He actually became a good defender in the NBA but couldn't shoot for ****. Was a great shooter the past two years for Real Madrid. 29 years old, worth a look?
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He re-signed with Real Madrid I thought.
 
I think Mario will be good, I will never give up on him just like Exum lol. I think he can be similar to what Simone developed into.
 
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