Coach Ellis
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Sexton will make it impossible to ignore. Breakout year coming - like it or not.
Who is the PGOTF (Point Guard of The Future)?
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i voted sexton. sexton is not a shooting guard. i dont care what anyone says, sexton was better than Key last year. the jazz gave Key the reigns and he played ok for a rookie, better than expected. Key's defense was attrocious last year and his shooting was erratic. Sexton was pure stud last year. consistent, reliable and under used.
Now, who’s the troll?
Why am I trolling?
Really funny to me so many votes for Collier when the word in the street is that his jumper is busted and needs to be reworked
I have some issues with the names you suggested (Maxey was drafted 21, Quickly is really a SG etc.) but I will not go into these details and may agree to expand my original statement to 4 or 5 - I don't really care for the precise number. But I do think that it is very hard to argue with the fact that 80%-90% of the teams had to draft their long-term starting PG markedly higher than # 29. It' still happens that the quality PGs get that much overlooked, but it is very uncommon and the smart betting man would confidently bet against Collier reaching that level.
If we look at the history of the Jazz starting PGs - Conley, Rubio, Hill, Burke, Harris, Williams, Stockton, Arroyo - only Hill and Arroyo have not been higher picks, came to the Jazz much later in their career and were rather meh as "the point guard of the future". My point is that it is hard to overlook future good point guards and they are rarely fall that low, unlike many shooting guards and wings. Being a quality starting PG requires the most extensive skillset out of any position and by the age of 19 it is pretty obvious who surely has it and who does not.
I am all for Collier becoming a great player but I want to temper the expectations a bit with a dose of reality.
jom2003
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Collier depends on how his rookie season goes. But the ideal candidate would be Copper Flagg. I want a lineup in which everyone is 6'8 and above, can shoot, defend and pass the ball.
Give me Flagg/Cody/Lauri/Hendricks/Filip(Walker)
Maybe we can use Key and Collier as the tank commanders to help us get Flagg.
Give me Flagg/Cody/Lauri/Hendricks/Filip(Walker)
Maybe we can use Key and Collier as the tank commanders to help us get Flagg.
seattlejazzfan
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i mean, he shot 39% from three the second half of the season. maybe word on the street is wrong? i absolutely think it's questionable and it's a concern, but the only thing that matters is whether it goes in - and we'll see. the jazz have said they aren't concerned about his mechanics, may end up tweeking it a tad after working with the shooting coach.
Making an already volatile number more volatile number isn't great. I think Collier was great value at 29, but that 39% number you're throwing around is like a fart in the wind.
framer
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I think he is the least likely bust at pg over any of the others pgs selected in the first round, especially WHERE he was selected. He may not be an all star (he could) but he will always have enough skill to run a bench squad. That would be a win for where he was selected.
I wouldn't expect him to be a generational shot blocker in the nba. I think he will still be a good but being a pf/sf will pull him towards the perimeter defensively.
He doesn't have a ton of role player ability, so that gives him a narrow range of outcomes to succeed. Like THT, when he's in the game he's going to have a lot of impact on the game for better or worse. Collier can really only play by dominating the ball. If he does it well, he can be a star....but being a dominant ball handler worthy of those touches is one of the hardest ways to succeed in the NBA.
I don’t think you can really “bust” that late in the draft in most circumstances. Generally, any success should be seen as gravy.
Right, which is why I say I love the value at #29. I guess what I mean is that there's a high chance he's not in the league or struggling to be in the league in 4 years.