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Gordon Hayward Retires
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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So, we start a thread due to Hayward retiring. There’s a lot of agonizing and sadness over what could’ve been and mocking. Then walks in the greatest evil mastermind to ever grace Jazzfanz and this whole thread turns into a thread about what is karma. That’s karma for you, and what we get for letting that evil genius run rampant all over jazzfanz. Damn you Nickkkk!!
By the way Karma ain’t real. It’s a weak minded fool’s attempt to justify things.
Gordon didn’t deserve a horrific injury just because he left the jazz the way he did. That is nothing more than a consequence for a made decision. He also got paid a lot of money. Also if you take it a step further. If Linsey doesn’t nickel and dime him, maybe he stays. So is DL’s karma punishing him by taking out Hayward? Or is it the Knicks Karma for dumping Tom Gugliotta along with a future first to the Jazz. The Knicks could’ve had Hayward is that karma punishing the Knicks for a dumb trade by Karma taking out Hayward?
Poor Hayward!!!
Or maybe it’s the ramblings of an evil baby talking karma worshiping idiot? If you want to simplify it, maybe this thread is karma for @Jason letting someone named hotnickkkkkk have an account here
In conclusion Karma is running wild over Hayward and Jason specifically through Jazzfanz.
With leads me to my last question. There was a 2-3 year period where @The Midnight was AOL, then he came back. My question is…. Jason, what did you do???
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Haha I had forgotten about that. Hayward looked and sounded crushed. That was funny as hell
Remember when Jordan took a break?With leads me to my last question. There was a 2-3 year period where @The Midnight was AOL, then he came back. My question is…. Jason, what did you do???
Same thing.
Again, even if it's true, how is it different from what everybody is doing at work? I don't know about you but I saw lots of people changing companies and did it myself. I do not remember ANYONE running around and telling their managers that they are looking for other jobs: everybody did everything to appear the most loyal employee until they gave the notice.
Have you ever changed jobs? If so, have you done what you wanted Hayward to do for the Jazz?
JimLes
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I mean, I'm sure you're aware that the NBA is nothing like my job or yours. It's a parallel universe where grown men get paid hundreds of millions of dollars to put a ball through a basket, while complaining that taking a few million fewer would make it hard to feed their families.
Comparing regular jobs to the NBA is like comparing my indoor house cat to a wild lion.
homeytennis
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Was Hayward a little slow on the uptake? Did he not realize that his decision would have consequences? Did he not realize that the lies he told would get out to the public? It's hard to feel too bad for him looking at his net worth.
So, they are just jobs that are paid more? They are still the jobs.
You know, someone who works a hard physical job making 40K thinks exactly the same about people in office jobs making 200K. "Those are not real jobs, they have so much of unearned money, they can easily take a 30K cut and not even notice!" But I am sure that the 200K office workers would certainly disagree.
A job is a job and if a company wants to retain their workers they should either pay them more or make their work experience amazing because they would eventually leave otherwise. And the Jazz declined to pay Hayward more than the competitors (by extending his contract). They also failed to make his work experience amazing by not building a contender (unlike Boston) or hiring as a manager the guy he really liked (again, like Boston). You are suggesting that Hayward for some reason should have acted against his own self-interest to solely benefit his employer. Good luck with that argument.
What was the benefit for Hayward to tell the Jazz that he would be leaving for Boston several months in advance? So that it would make these last months incredibly awkward at his workplace? To give the Jazz a chance to trade him to the third team and force him to relocate for several months on zero notice?
homeytennis
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Paul George informed his team he wouldn't be signing with them before the season ended. It's not that hard.
I do not know the details of the situation with Paul George. Lets talk about Hayward. What was the benefit for Hayward in telling the Jazz that he would not sign with them? Keep in mind that Boston could have changed their mind, had better option etc. - there was no contract signed yet between Hayward and the Celtics. Would you tell your employer that you are leaving (and you kinda like your current employer!) before you had the contract with another employer that you liked even more?
What Hayward did was the real working world equivalent of quitting without notice. He really left us in the worst spot possible because on top of everything his timing made it so we were past prime free agency. He also could have pushed to get us a trade exception, but I'll blame DA for that not happening.
In the end it's not the biggest deal in the world to quit a job without notice, but you are going to burn some bridges and cause some resentment to the people who have to pick up after the chaos you leave behind.
In the end it's not the biggest deal in the world to quit a job without notice, but you are going to burn some bridges and cause some resentment to the people who have to pick up after the chaos you leave behind.
Yeah but the rumor is that Hayward did tell them he wanted to go to Boston...
homeytennis
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My Best Buy sources and the Minivan tell me that's false.
Now we are going into the land of outright falsehoods. It was not Hayward but the Jazz that did not want to extend Hayward and give him the pay raise. They consciously let him to become a free agent and test the market. Hayward played out his entire contract and went to Boston only after he was no longer a Jazz player. There was no quitting without notice because he was no longer employed by the Jazz due to their own choice.
The Jazz could have handled it differently.
Hayward still dragged it out with his free agency tour.
I don't think what Hayward did was that bad, but he also could have handled the situation way better.
Yeah, you missed the point. I didn't say he quit without notice, but what he did was that equivalent as far as how bad it was.
I don't think he should be hated all these years later for what he did, but it's understandable the way he did it would burn some bridges.
By the way, the Jazz themselves set the date when Hayward's contract will expire and knew that date years in advance. There was no need for any notice.